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Bikers jailed under $1 million bonds; one bond-reduction hearing set [Waco Trib]
Waco Trib ^ | May 18, 2015 | Tommy Witherspoon

Posted on 05/18/2015 9:12:16 PM PDT by Colofornian

The more than 170 members of biker gangs that Waco law enforcement officials say were involved in a deadly biker gang shootout Sunday at Twin Peaks won’t be going anywhere soon.

Justice of the Peace W.H. “Pete” Peterson set bonds for 174 gang members charged with engaging in organized criminal activity at $1 million each.

“I think it is important to send a message,” Peterson said. “We had nine people killed in our community. These people just came in and most of them were from out of town. Very few of them were from in town.”

Meanwhile, a lawyer for Jimmy Don Smith, 59, of Caldwell, moved quickly Monday in getting a bond-reduction hearing set. Dan Jones, a Bryan lawyer, was in Judge Ralph Strother’s 19th State District Court Monday to request the hearing for Smith, a mechanic with Novosad Enterprises of Caldwell. Strother set the hearing for June 5.

Peterson declined to release the identities of the nine men killed Sunday because he said only one man’s family has been notified that he knows of so far.

He said all but two of those killed were not from the Waco area, but declined to say where they were from.

Even if the men bond out of jail, they likely won’t be riding their motorcycles home. The motorcycles were confiscated as part of the massive law enforcement investigation and sources say they likely will be seized and forfeited by McLennan County through civil forfeiture procedures and sold at auction...

“...members and associates of the Cossacks and Bandidos...continuously or regularly associate in the commission of criminal activities,” the affidavit says. “The Texas Department of Public Safety maintains a database containing information identifying...Cossacks and their associates as a criminal street gang and the Bandidos and their associates as a criminal street gang.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at wacotrib.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 1percenters; bikers; gangs; howromantic; murders; texas; waco
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To: Texas Fossil

You apparently are not familiar with the nature of these types of motorcycle ‘clubs’


41 posted on 05/18/2015 11:57:44 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Larry381

If you pull a gun, there is an excellent chance that any officers in the immediate area will shoot you.

I say this without passing any judgement on why any guns may have been displayed.

It just is what it is.


42 posted on 05/19/2015 2:40:09 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkie)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Wow, just finished last nights episode of Turn.

Just Wow.


43 posted on 05/19/2015 2:51:49 AM PDT by mylife ("The roar of the masses could be farts")
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To: faithhopecharity

“Really tragic and it appears it was all over a parking space????? A shame”

Yeah, the shame of it all is that these pukes are such poor shots and only killed nine of each other.


44 posted on 05/19/2015 2:57:35 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: mylife

I have it on DVR looks like i missed out.


45 posted on 05/19/2015 3:02:52 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: StoneWall Brigade

I won’t spoil it.


46 posted on 05/19/2015 3:09:42 AM PDT by mylife ("The roar of the masses could be farts")
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To: Texas Fossil
"I am not very enthused about asset forfeiture processes."

Aside from that, I'm not sure it'd be a good idea to buy one of these bikes at auction.

Imagine that, a couple years from now, you're stopped at a light in East Podunk and the former owner, now released or found not guilty or whatever pulls up next to you.

47 posted on 05/19/2015 3:54:05 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (Enter something.)
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To: RedElement

This is how the Police should have handled Ferguson and Baltimore


48 posted on 05/19/2015 4:09:45 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: smokingfrog

Thanks for the video link...Interesting that the point was made that the presence of law enforcement would not deter the Cossacks and Bandidos from violence against each other.

(And it did not...It did stop the carnage from continuing)
Stupid thugs


49 posted on 05/19/2015 4:17:34 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: Colofornian

One million dollars bail? That sounds excessive unless they were very wealthy. That JP never heard of the Bill of Rights.


50 posted on 05/19/2015 5:19:21 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: caww; All
Interesting is just last week I was watching videos about biker gangs

For some morbid reason the subject of OMGs really fascinates me...can you post a link or tell me where you saw these videos? Thanks!
51 posted on 05/19/2015 5:21:16 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: notdownwidems

Let me see if I can find them....I ran across them while looking for other videos....just tweaked my interest so I watched a few of them.

Will be back after I look for them.


52 posted on 05/19/2015 8:44:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: notdownwidems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttX_8pNMg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ6L9hDdYLk


53 posted on 05/19/2015 8:52:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: OrangeHoof; All
Now, several people will be out of jobs but at least they left still alive. For that, they can be thankful.

Well, let's address this first. I guess you didn't read what kind of entity this was: Flesh-catering (not so much food catering...scantily clad employees.

Such employees should (eventually) be thankful to at least (temporarily) be out of this industry.

And for those who were profiting off of the exploitation of its female "employees," 'tis good that they are out of this kind of "work," too.

I read where Twin Peaks corporate offices pulled their franchise and slammed the store management for their role in the confrontation. I couldn’t believe it when I read the restaurant refused overtures by police to be present when this “meeting” took place. What a foolish, foolish thing for a store owner to do to their guests and employees.

Ok, so let's next deal with some of the misnomers surrounding this matter as well (beyond your comments, but related):

Yes, the police requested that they be included in on the "meeting." Failing that, they had at least a dozen officers on the scene.

Not sure having more security, more officers on the scene than that, would have pre-empted what occurred.

As for the Twin Peaks franchise, it issued a statement saying that they were thankful than NONE (as in zero) of their "guests" were injured/hurt:

Announcement of the franchise revocation came Monday after it was learned the Waco location failed to comply with police requests not to serve bikers at the event, according to the statement:
We are in the people business and the safety of the employees and guests in our restaurants is priority one. Unfortunately the management team of the franchised restaurant in Waco chose to ignore the warnings and advice from both the police and our company, and did not uphold the high security standards we have in place to ensure everyone is safe at our restaurants. We will not tolerate the actions of this relatively new franchisee and are immediately revoking their franchise agreement. Our sympathies continue to be with the families of those who died and are very thankful no employees, GUESTS, police officers or bystanders were hurt or injured."
Source: Twin Peaks Revokes Waco Restaurant's Franchise After Shootout

Hmmm...nice revisionism on the part of Twin Peaks: These biker gangs were "guests" (paying customers) every time they've frequented there in the past...so suddenly, they are less than "guests?"

But, hey, Twin Peaks is in the cesspool biz so what'd ya 'xpect from their PR people?

Secondly, where's the outcry from the liberals & the homosexual community on the fact that the Waco PD was repeatedly requesting that Twin Peaks not serve these biker gangs?

You mean a hue & cry goes across the nation when two homosexual men can't get a Christian-owned bakery to openly sanction their unnatural relationship? But when an entire group of men are targeted for commercial exclusion based upon the type of jacket they where, that's to be lauded & commended by the liberals & homosexual activists & sympathizers?

54 posted on 05/19/2015 2:41:15 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Nifster
Pick up your phone Alex wants to chat

I don't listen regularly but I also didn't know that the Waco incident had been successfully erased from the minds of freedom-loving Americans. Thanks, I guess.
55 posted on 05/19/2015 4:01:42 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux

They are not comparable. This officer who made the statement was most likely not involved with what was mostly a FEDERAL operation.....It has not been erased it is not in the wheel house of this officer’s experience. Seeing something on film is NEVER the same as seeing it in person


56 posted on 05/19/2015 7:03:09 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: golux
Gotta love the Waco LEO who said ‘in 35 years he’d never seen senseless violence like this.”

That wasn't in THIS Waco - that was another Waco, somewhere else... LOL! :)

57 posted on 05/19/2015 7:23:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: familyop
United States Constitution - Amendment VIII - Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

LOL! You came up with that one so fast that you must have been shopping in the Washington, DC Politicians Store, and seen the rolls of toilet paper with the various Amendments printed on them...

58 posted on 05/19/2015 7:29:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Texas Fossil
But the asset forfeiture law is a crock the way it has been used. Proof of crime should be required before it is forfeited. Crooked LEOs now use it to finance pretty things at work. Not a lawful, attitude.

Our former English masters had a thingee called "The Vice-Admiralty courts", which were used to steal the ships & cargoes of American colonial merchants.

59 posted on 05/19/2015 7:33:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: kiryandil

(Mar26 2013) Waco: District Attorney’s Office Gets New Criminal Investigator

http://www.kwtx.com/ourtown/home/headlines/Waco-District-Attorneys-Office-Gets-New-Criminal-Investigator-200058481.html

timing?

I support Texas Law Enforcement, but am cautious about Rogue DAs and Career POLs.


60 posted on 05/20/2015 3:00:28 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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