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Obama to set new limits on police use of military equipment
yahoo ^ | 5/17 | edwards

Posted on 05/18/2015 4:53:33 AM PDT by RummyChick

- President Barack Obama plans to put in place new restrictions on the use of military equipment by police departments, following unrest in U.S. cities over the deaths of black men at the hands of police officers, the White House said on Monday.

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To: goodnesswins

Had s/b glad


41 posted on 05/18/2015 7:02:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; nathanbedford; Old Sarge; null and void; Nachum; Kartographer; ...
.......why was the Federal government funding these purchases in the first place?

That is the the overlooked question here. Any police department can have any equipment it can afford. This is just grandstanding for the Barry Base. The federal executive has very little to do with local policing matters, and then only in narrowly limited circumstances. This free-for-all dump of surplus military equipment on PDs was never a good idea.

42 posted on 05/18/2015 7:09:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
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To: GOPJ

There is absolutely no reason, for this training exercise in the United States. None- by any way, shape or form of understanding emergency response coordination. This exercise represents a direct threat to Our Country, by The Government.


43 posted on 05/18/2015 7:09:18 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Kenny Bunk

http://highlandcountypress.com/print.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=22&ArticleID=27707

Sunday, May 17, 2015

Rep. Louie Gohmert

By Rep. Louie Gohmert
R-Texas

Over the past few weeks, my office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise scheduled to take place between July 15 and September 15, 2015.

This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law.

Certainly, I can understand these concerns.

When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even “cling to guns or religion,” patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned.

We have seen people working in this administration use their government positions to persecute people with conservative beliefs in God, country, and notions such as honor and self-reliance.

Because of the contempt and antipathy for the true patriots or even Christian saints persecuted for their Christian beliefs, it is no surprise that those who have experienced or noticed such persecution are legitimately suspicious.

Having served in the U.S. Army, I can understand why military officials have a goal to see if groups of Special Forces can move around a civilian population without being noticed and can handle various threat scenarios.

In military science classes or in my years on active duty, I have participated in or observed military exercises; however, we never named an existing city or state as a “hostile.” We would use fictitious names before we would do such a thing.

Once I observed the map depicting “hostile,” “permissive” and “uncertain” states and locations, I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution.

When the federal government begins, even in practice, games or exercises, to consider any U.S. city or state in “hostile” control and trying to retake it, the message becomes extremely calloused and suspicious.

More at link...


44 posted on 05/18/2015 7:12:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (More blacks are aborted every week than have been lynched in the entire history of the country-Rush)
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To: RummyChick; Old Sarge

Obama’s setting ‘limits’ because he knows now the police are NOT with him. This military crap will be given to “Homeland” is my guess....

Have you seen this?

http://highlandcountypress.com/print.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=22&ArticleID=27707

By Rep. Louie Gohmert
R-Texas

Over the past few weeks, my office has been inundated with calls referring to the Jade Helm 15 military exercise scheduled to take place between July 15 and September 15, 2015.

This military practice has some concerned that the U.S. Army is preparing for modern-day martial law.

Certainly, I can understand these concerns.

When leaders within the current administration believe that major threats to the country include those who support the Constitution, are military veterans, or even “cling to guns or religion,” patriotic Americans have reason to be concerned.

We have seen people working in this administration use their government positions to persecute people with conservative beliefs in God, country, and notions such as honor and self-reliance.

Because of the contempt and antipathy for the true patriots or even Christian saints persecuted for their Christian beliefs, it is no surprise that those who have experienced or noticed such persecution are legitimately suspicious.

Having served in the U.S. Army, I can understand why military officials have a goal to see if groups of Special Forces can move around a civilian population without being noticed and can handle various threat scenarios.

In military science classes or in my years on active duty, I have participated in or observed military exercises; however, we never named an existing city or state as a “hostile.” We would use fictitious names before we would do such a thing.

Once I observed the map depicting “hostile,” “permissive” and “uncertain” states and locations, I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution.

When the federal government begins, even in practice, games or exercises, to consider any U.S. city or state in “hostile” control and trying to retake it, the message becomes extremely calloused and suspicious.

Such labeling tends to make people who have grown leery of federal government overreach become suspicious of whether their big brother government anticipates certain states may start another civil war or be overtaken by foreign radical Islamist elements which have been reported to be just across our border.

Such labeling by a government that is normally not allowed to use military force against its own citizens is an affront to the residents of that particular state considered as hostile, as if the government is trying to provoke a fight with them.

The map of the exercise needs to change, the names on the map need to change, and the tone of the exercise needs to be completely revamped so the federal government is not intentionally practicing war against its own states.

Rep. Louie Gohmert is the Vice Chair of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Chairman of the Natural Resources Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. Prior to being elected to serve in Congress, he was elected to three terms as District Judge in Smith County, Texas. He also was appointed to complete a term as Chief Justice of the 12th Court of Appeals. He was a captain in the U.S. Army.


45 posted on 05/18/2015 7:15:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (More blacks are aborted every week than have been lynched in the entire history of the country-Rush)
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To: GOPJ
Congressman Gohmert is exactly right when he says:

In military science classes or in my years on active duty, I have participated in or observed military exercises; however, we never named an existing city or state as a “hostile.” We would use fictitious names before we would do such a thing

During my time, XVIII ABN would use "Cornada" as the fictional country for operations. Even NTC out in Irwin would use the made-up nation of "Krasnovia".

He also mentions:

I was rather appalled that the hostile areas amazingly have a Republican majority and believe in the sanctity of the United States Constitution.

That's always amused me about the Left and the Right: the Left always telegraphs their punches, and the Right always leads with their chin - and wonders why they got hit.

46 posted on 05/18/2015 7:16:27 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Old Sarge

The right, has no chin.


47 posted on 05/21/2015 7:13:04 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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