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Going to Pot?
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2015 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 05/17/2015 6:21:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

Bill Bennett, a great American and a great Republican was all over television promoting his new book Going to Pot co-written with Robert A. White. This is a topic I have followed for years and previously written about so I thought I would read the book and hope for an interview with Dr. Bennett. I was unable to land the big fish, but did interview his co-writer for an hour discussing the issue of whether the legalization of marijuana should continue.

I have previously written that the experiment of legalization should go forward in Colorado and Washington and let us see the effects. One of the weaknesses I found in the book and in my discussion with Mr. White is that it is far too early to draw conclusions. Mr. White referred me to a series of articles available on their website (goingtopotbook.com) which were from the Colorado Springs Gazette. I read over 50 pages of columns and came away with the thinking that a lot of what was promised by the politicians in favor of legalization did not come to fruition. Not to be too snarky, but wow what a concept – supporters of an initiative misleading the voters.

A lot this was how much tax would be collected from legalization. There are two clear reasons why more money was not collected and they both go back to the government. First, is that many more people in Colorado are going the medical marijuana route because they do not have to pay the taxes that the other users do going to a regular pot store. Second, there is a burgeoning black market in Colorado again caused by too-high taxes imposed on legal use. What the state of Colorado does not know is how defined the black market was before legalization.

There were two points in the book that we kept going back to in the interview. Repeatedly, the book focuses on the harmful effects of marijuana on individuals 12-17 years old. I brought that fact up to Mr. White and said that the law does not legalize use for kids. I also reminded him what my personal research had concluded from discussions with hundreds of grownups. Before medical marijuana was available, grownups were unable to readily get marijuana, but their children in school had ready access. White said “It is a three-point issue: perception, availability and price.” It is true the perception of legality for those 18 years old and over changes the thought of whether it should be tried for younger people, but it is still illegal. Availability is something we will never know for sure, but it sure seems it was pretty available before formal legalization. The issue of price makes no sense. If the price offered by licensed stores is so attractive then why would there be a black market? The black market must be undercutting the legal prices.

We discussed the issue of potency. White pointed out the potency is not what it was in my college years of the early 1970’s. I told him I was well aware of that. The people that I know with first-hand knowledge of what they are now getting were never quite sure of the potency before medical marijuana or legalization. Second, they have all adjusted their usage.

We then discussed the commercialization of the product which has been done under legalization. Pot is being sold like Hershey bars are sold or any other product. We agreed there certainly is a downside to that happening. As White stated “Like alcohol, 80% is being consumed by 20% of the people.” The commercialization is attracting them to use more and many are abusing.” There is no question that there are people who will abuse and I agreed that with legalization the number may increase. The correct question is: Should the other people who use marijuana intermittently and in low quantities be forced to give up their enjoyment because others cannot control themselves?

White expressed his biggest surprise was how effective the campaign has been to legalize marijuana. He told me that in 1969, 12% of people were for legalization while in 2014 that number had risen to 60%. I pointed out that may be due to people seeing over the past 45 years that the criminalization of pot was counterproductive.

We then discussed the fact that a study posted in the appendix of the book stated 9% of marijuana users were addicts. I attempted to get a good definition of “addict.” Marijuana does not have the same addicting factors as heroin, cocaine or even cigarettes. I stated that the real problem that people are facing today is prescription medications and very cheap heroin that has flooded the market and expanded to the suburbs and colleges. We respectfully disagreed on where the focus should be at this time.

White made the point that the commercialization will drive usage and there is no doubt that the intent of marijuana is to create an altered state of mind -- that is why it is called “getting high.” When I asked White whether he would rather someone come home and have a shot of scotch or smoke marijuana, he clearly stated scotch. I pointed out that the idea of the scotch was for someone to “loosen up” after a day of work. After reading White and Bennett’s book and a prolonged discussion with White, I am no more convinced that marijuana is a major problem on which we should focus outsized resources. I am still convinced if given a choice I would rather see someone use marijuana than alcohol. I still believe we need further time to analyze the effects from the Colorado and Washington legalization of marijuana. But there is no question there will be downsides. The question is, are those downsides worse than having it illegal?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: authorondrugs; cannabis; colorado; drugs; globalwarminghoax; homosexualagenda; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; pot; wod
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1 posted on 05/17/2015 6:21:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Drug advocacy is one of the cornerstones of left-wing liberalism.


2 posted on 05/17/2015 6:26:16 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Kaslin

Yep, some claimed taxing marijuana was going to turn around our economy? You would have to be stoned to believe that. Oh wait.


3 posted on 05/17/2015 6:28:42 AM PDT by Leep ("Soon you won't be able to live in America as a Muslim. The noose is tightening," Elton Simpson)
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To: Leep

What could possibly go wrong?


4 posted on 05/17/2015 6:30:51 AM PDT by Taxman ( I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Who wants to turn the country into a bunch of pot smoking, underachieving, Obama voting, hipster barristas?


5 posted on 05/17/2015 6:33:50 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Kaslin

“I still believe we need further time to analyze the effects from the Colorado and Washington legalization of marijuana”

we Kemosabe?


6 posted on 05/17/2015 6:34:16 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Taxman

Willie weighs in...

https://youtu.be/A6c6eUeoa9Q


7 posted on 05/17/2015 6:36:43 AM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Meaningless platitude.


8 posted on 05/17/2015 6:39:26 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Abuse rolls down hill.)
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To: Kaslin

The problem with marijuana is that it stays in your system for weeks, and the effects of this are not fully known. In addition, sustained heavy use accumulates in a person’s system with the effect of a permanent high. Judgement may be adversely affected.

Interestingly, I believe that all the recent black deaths at the hands of police had one thing in common...traces of marijuana(and often other drugs)drug tests.

Police reports often mentioned “irrational behavior”, are police actions a result of prejudice against blacks or against drug-induced behaviors?


9 posted on 05/17/2015 6:42:49 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Kaslin

I find it interesting that not one of these articles interviews people in Colorado. If they did there would be no story.


10 posted on 05/17/2015 6:45:11 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
The problem with marijuana is that it stays in your system for weeks, and the effects of this are not fully known. In addition, sustained heavy use accumulates in a person’s system with the effect of a permanent high. Judgement may be adversely affected.

Yes, quite right. I learned those facts in a movie called Reefer Madness. We sure are lucky that only safe drugs like alcohol are legal.

11 posted on 05/17/2015 6:48:57 AM PDT by sargon
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Drug advocacy is one of the cornerstones of left-wing liberalism.

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Do you mean like the near constant booze ads on all media outlets, telling us how great their buzz is?


12 posted on 05/17/2015 7:02:49 AM PDT by dmz
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To: FiddlePig

You can keep all the whiskey from Lynchburg, Tennessee.

Lawrenceburg, KY on the other hand .......


13 posted on 05/17/2015 7:03:28 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: dmz
Do you mean

Do you advocate legalizing heroin, crystal meth, cocaine, etc? Do you feel it is your God-given right to take these yourself and sell them to others?

14 posted on 05/17/2015 7:08:39 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Who wants to turn the country into a bunch of pot smoking, underachieving, Obama voting, hipster barristas?

Liberals... and Libertarians.

15 posted on 05/17/2015 7:09:37 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Precisely.


16 posted on 05/17/2015 7:13:03 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: sargon
"sustained heavy use accumulates in a person’s system with the effect of a permanent high"

If this were the case wouldnt there be a very low demand for cannabis as an intoxicant? As we would all be permanently high and wouldnt need to smoke any more.

17 posted on 05/17/2015 7:13:11 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: sargon

Seems to me whether it’s pols in DC making laws with no knowledge of the subject at hand or drug debates fueled with emotion and baseless propaganda, the result is always the same... And that’s all I want to say, except for the presumption found in the article saying that high dope prices brought about the burgeoning black market—that market has existed since at least the 1920’s, and always will.


18 posted on 05/17/2015 7:30:42 AM PDT by W. (Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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To: Kaslin

Pot is the greatest dumbing down product ever produced and the user thinks they are educated about all things.


19 posted on 05/17/2015 7:53:06 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

Drugged kids don’t learn the Common Core, which Bennett backs.


20 posted on 05/17/2015 8:00:23 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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