Posted on 05/16/2015 5:00:54 PM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
A US appeals court has ruled that the NSA's dragnet of millions of Americans' phone calls is illegal, and Edward Snowden served as the catalyst for the decision.
"Americans first learned about the telephone metadata program that appellants now challenge on June 5, 2013, when the British newspaper The Guardian published a FISC order leaked by former government contractor Edward Snowden," the court noted.
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Norm, none of our politicians released a single name. He did. I’m not a fan of our politicians. I’d love to see a number of them taken down for corruption and the like. If they can be tied to what the NSA is doing, I’m all for it. Put them in federal prison.
The men and women we have overseas are serving you and I. They don’t deserve to be outed by anyone.
PS moron, learn to read
To: DoughtyOne
I don’t think he had some massively great sense of great justice. He is a lib afterall. But what he did was ultimately right. Because the NSA is ultimately violating the Constitution. Thats the bottom line. Imagine how much further along they would be into our lives had he not.
25 posted on Saturday, May 16, 2015 5:55:36 PM by Norm Lenhart
But they did unconstitutionally create the reason it happened.
Which is it?
Good night Norm, you're not worth any more comments, so have at it.
Its Lakeshark. The biggest GOp/Romney excuse maker on FR. He still defends his Romney idiocy. No biggie.
You forgot to swear at me. PS, YOU posted to me. You should know better.
Number one, you honestly couldn’t read my disgust through that post?
Number two, by discussing methods and practices, he could have revealed ways the NSA was monitoring actual terrorists in our nation.
You want to boil that sort of thing down to who invited them?
Come on. You can do better than that.
Do you really think anything's changed? Do you think it's going to?
Have you missed how the surveillance state has come of age since the big Snowden headline?
No, people just learned about what was already there. It was of age long before. It is by definition not a secret if everyone knows the secret.
No I don’t think it will change anything until the Uniparty rules. Later is another issue. Then it will matter.
Where else was he going to go?
Either rules or no longer rules, actually. They are almost there now. Once the boot fully hits the neck, change will happen.
You really do not understand the American court system. This case has been working its way through the system for a number of years. The traitor Snowden (who now works for your beloved Soviet Union (formerly known as Russia)) was NOT the key to this.
The fact that the court ruled that the NSA had over stepped and acted illegally has to do with what the NSA did NOT what Snowden did
He's safe in Russia; the chances of a drone strike or SEAL team taking him out there are minimal. It's Russia or China. The rest of the world is a patchwork of American vassals.
It was quite revealing watching some condemn the
“spy” for exposing government who was spying on us.
It was Faux News. My mom was just starting to slip into Alzheimers during the big Snowden news days. I know prior to the disease, she would have been able to engage in a true logical and constitutional argument over what he did, but she was unable. She watched Fox News practically all day long and she just stopped being able to form her own opinions any more. She just took theirs. It was when I first started to lose my “mommy.” But Fox was anti-Snowden. You didn’t need that long personal explanation, but there Ya go. ;)
We both agree there. No doubt about it. I think some of them could be tied to what was going on, and at the very least they should be jettisoned. IMO, they should be brought up on charges. We allow this stuff to fade away. I don’t like that at all.
So instead of securing the doors and windows to our home, we allow in and continue to allow in thousands of known dangerous individuals from suspect countries. To protect us government decides to spy on, monitor, hack, wire tap and seize emails from millions of Americans.
Does this make sense to anyone?
My biggest issue with all this is that exactly. Ultimately Snowden, right or wrong, was the messenger that everyone tries killing. We can all debate the correctness of his personal actions and motivations and fairly. But the people and programs he exposed AND those that are responsible for enacting them are the real issue and problem. The mere fact that a collaboration of American pols got together and enabled this to spy on their own voters is the greatest evil and all of it is their ultimate responsibility.
Of course not. I don’t think we should be allowing one person in from nations known to have active terrorist operations in them.
Syria? WFH No freakin way? Asia, the Islamic nations over there? No way? Other Middle Eastern nations? No way?
They set up these terrorists in our nation so they can claim they need to monitor us. It’s transparent as can be.
No it doesn’t make sense to hack U. S. Citizens unless they are members of a mosque and are considered problematic.
Frankly I don’t mind if they tap anyone they can get a warrant for, using a valid national security justification.
I don’t want fraudulent ones though.
If Snowden had not started revealing national security information, I would be on his side. I would defend him. Part of what he revealed was very important domestically. Other parts..., he really screwed up IMO.
You talk about the entities in the U. S., the NSA and politicians, I’m all for going after as many of them as we can find.
I’m tired of our elected officials and appointees getting a free ride when they screw up. Prosecute them and treat them like any other criminal.
We know there were Constitutional infractions here. They took a oath. Prosecute.
Remember those Whitewater hearings from the 90s. Those did more to destroy my respect for Congress and the Presidency than anything else I can point to.
Those ass hats in Washington need to live by the same laws we do. This really rubs me the wrong way.
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