Posted on 05/14/2015 11:40:06 AM PDT by jimbo123
On Wednesday afternoon, just as she sat down to watch TV and eat a corn dog, Ivy Ziedrich’s phone rang. It was her sister in Montana.
“I am so proud of you,” her sister said, “for yelling at a politician.”
It was the first inkling that Ms. Ziedrich, a 19-year-old college student with a passion for the debate team and the finer points of Middle Eastern policy, had gone viral.
Her confrontation with Jeb Bush, in which she told the former Florida governor a few hours earlier, “Your brother created ISIS,” was suddenly everywhere online, casting an unwelcome hue on President George W. Bush’s legacy from the war in Iraq.
“My sister started freaking out,” Ms. Ziedrich recalled.
In an interview, Ms. Ziedrich described a dizzying 24 hours of social media frenzy, her upbringing in a conservative Republican family, and the circumstances that prompted her to approach Jeb Bush, who was in Reno for a town hall-style meeting on Wednesday.
She had shown up with a few college friends uncertain of whether she wanted to ask anything at all. But as Mr. Bush spoke about the rise of the Islamic State, and put blame on President Obama for removing troops from Iraq, Ms. Ziedrich found herself becoming furious. ISIS, she believed, was the product of George W. Bush’s bungled war in Iraq.
“A Bush was trying to blame ISIS on Obama’s foreign policy — it was hilarious,” said Ms. Ziedrich, who attends the University of Nevada. “It was like somebody crashing their car and blaming the passenger.”
She acknowledged she was deeply nervous about walking up to him after the meeting and asking her question. “I get nervous any time I talk to an authority figure — he wants to be president of the United States,” she said
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ISIS is solely a creation of Obama.
Makes little difference when ISIS got started. Obama has cultivated them to a level of power they couldn’t have achieved without his incompetence.
Your premise is right on; need to nip this in the bud. Otherwise, for example, you get lies like “hands up, don’t shoot” being repeated.
She’s a dolt. As is the author of this tripe and Jose Bush as well. Sometimes there is nobody to root for but she is so thoroughly misinformed it is rather comical.
JimBo123, take a deep breath.
The laugh is on them.
We’re not going to support this guy. Relax.
The Left thinks it’s scoring here.
I’ll bet there isn’t one person on this forum who would vote for Jeb.
If there is, they’re bigger fools than the Democrat milking this for all it’s worth.
To add to your list:
The idea that Iraqis (or any Muslims, for that matter) would in essence abandon their religion and place “democracy” (whatever that term means to anyone) in the form of a secular government above their supreme religious figure was naive from 4 separate standpoints:
1: The hardest thing to make people change is their religion. But this isn’t just “changing” a peoples religion; it was a proposal to have them renounce their religion, since to them, Mohammed is supreme.
2: There is utterly zero history of “democracy” in the Mideast with the possible exception of Lebanon and Israel (not what is being talked about) and the founders knew perfectly well that a foundational element for the establishment and sustainability of any such system is the so-called “civil society”. Without some inherent desire to establish and maintain a civil society, there is no hope for anything other than pure “rule of the jungle” or pure religionism in a society. There has never been any history of such a “civil society” in the Mideast. There are apparently functioning societies in the Mideast but without exception, they all function ONLY under the iron fist of a ruthless government. In other words: tyrranies.
3: That even if such an effort could be made to work in Iraq, it would never have been acceptable to any of half a dozen neighboring countries and thus secondary wars could be expected to erupt. Leading to an indefinite and unpredictably sized military commitment, perhaps on multiple fronts, if we wanted to preserve what we were proposing to “win”.
4: Ignoring all of the above, apparently without asking any creditable Islamic scholar or historian (never mind us mere civilians) who could have and would have immediately predicted these outcomes, was foolishly and willfully arrogant.
The girl suggested that ISIS was formed out of remnants of the Iraqi army, and I think that’s absolutely false.
I will not vote for Jeb. I will write in my own name. At least I am a Republician.
It damn sure should have been nipped in the bud fast by idiot Jeb.
Patently false.
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