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To: dware; zeestephen

The Framers fought against a government in which they weren’t represented.

The American people are thoroughly represented up and down and sideways across DC in congress and the presidency.

So it is presumably against ourselves that we would have to sacrifice in the name of liberty. It doesn’t make sense.


63 posted on 05/13/2015 3:55:45 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: Jacquerie
The American people are thoroughly represented up and down and sideways across DC in congress and the presidency.

Can you honestly tell me that YOU are "thoroughly represented" in Congress and the WH?

64 posted on 05/13/2015 4:22:48 PM PDT by dware (In 2016, the GOP has 2 choices: CRUZ OR LOSE!)
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To: Jacquerie; dware
Re: “The Framers fought against a government in which they weren’t represented.”

I believe modern day Conservatives are also fighting against a government in which we are not represented.

After the Newt Gingrich insurrection collapsed in 1996, the Republican Party has routinely betrayed Conservatives on every issue I care about.

65 posted on 05/13/2015 5:57:39 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Jacquerie

“The American people are thoroughly represented up and down and sideways across DC in congress and the presidency.”

And therein lies the brilliance of using representative democracy as a tool. How can you oppose such luminaries as we have? Afterall, the majority elected them!

So we spend countless hours and billions of dollars focusing on means and procedures, while generally ignoring the ends produced. The “solution” is always a new set of personalities, a tweak here, a procedural change there.


68 posted on 05/14/2015 2:46:27 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves.)
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