Posted on 05/02/2015 6:04:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Depending on whom you ask, “Jade Helm 15” is either a domestic military training exercise or a covert operation for the federal government to take over the state of Texas – and 2016 presidential candidate Ted Cruz just became the latest Republican to fan the flames of the latter theory.
Speaking at the South Carolina Republican Party’s annual convention Saturday, the Texas senator told Bloomberg’s David Weigel that his office had contacted the Pentagon about the exercise, which officially consists of a series of training drills throughout the Southwest for about 1,200 special operations personnel, including Green Berets and Navy SEALs. Conspiracy theorists operating on the fringes of the conservative blogosphere, however, have other ideas about what the exercise, known as Jade Helm 15, is intended to do – such as implement martial law, seize Americans’ guns, and imprison political dissidents.
Rather than squash those theories outright, Cruz apparently decided it was better to be safe than sorry.
“My office has reached out to the Pentagon to inquire about this exercise,” he said. “We are assured it is a military training exercise. I have no reason to doubt those assurances, but I understand the reason for concern and uncertainty, because when the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration, the natural consequence is that many citizens don’t trust what it is saying.”(continued)
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And you still don’t present your theories.
Why is that. It is easier to take snipes at everyone else.
I ask you again to step up and explain your position, your expectations on Jade Helm.
Please.
ll that needs to happen is one incident. Then Barry can bring in the full boat.
Baltimore quickly spiraled. But they were his people. When a spiral happens in a state he hate you can guess what the reaction would be.
Ding. Ding. Ding.
We have a winner!
Seems to me that Sen. Cruz was just doing his job as a representative of the people of TX. The article does not say he promoted a conspiracy theory. It says he inquired about the exercise. The article is a lib hit piece on Cruz and Republicans. Nothing more.
You first. You were first presented with 3 events. Address them. In context.
So you think because the administration is corrupt ( and I agree with you on all of that) you sincerely think the special operators will follow orders to do things to Americans?
That is the part of this conspiracy that falls apart for me.
They are in designated parcels of land that are well defined. If they are ordered out of those parcels they won’t react?
Our guys are too smart for that.
I believe you recently said something about respect for the uniform. So you think they will be openly told “Go shoot Americans? You are that naive?
I think the Branch Davidians might disagree with that theory. The federales had months to ponder their legal position and actions given the media lies and confusion surrounding the siege in Waco ... and no one stood down when the order came to attack. They killed everybody and are still sorting out the 'why'.
In a much shorter time-frame, we'll all be dead or on a train to New Auschwitz for re-education or worse before they recognize we are the 'good' guys. They'll be 'just following orders' like the SS who were the special ops of their time.
Yes, the few who do stand down will be given a ride with us.
Do the research. I don’t make the rules. I am not defending the operation.
I am saying that this paranoia is unfounded. People like doom porn.
This one just doesn’t make sense.
Bump for truth!
Where?
Lots of places.
Like Fort Irwin NTC which has a ME mockup village on site.
How quickly you forger a little Government armed showdown over freaking COWS north of Vegas.
Paranoid my ass.
I addressed two of them. Don’t know the third. Do you even read respones?
I asked you to explain what your theory and concerns are about this exercise. That’s all. Add to the discussion rather than just slap at me.
You can do it. I long to understand your highly educated views. Please, present an argument that will change my mind.
You havent addressed anything. You have however repeated well worn MSNBC talking points like “Doom Porn”
Agreed. I don’t however, understand the insistence that this is “nothing new”. Demonstrably false. And if it’s a legit training exercise, it doesn’t need such a convoluted cover story.
Hey, as I said before, if you want to pick apart their logic call the pentagon.
I am addressing the paranoia and the conspiracy theories.
I ask you, as I did Norm, to tell me what you think is going to happen—specifically—and how the U.S. Soldiers will hurt U.S. citizens.
Apparently no one noticed the sh*t-stirrers in this case were our good progressive friends at MSNBC...they are scared to death of Cruz. I heard he’s already got NRA members building the re-education camps where they will force liberals and progressives to convert to Christianity...or die!
LT seems to be here for one reason. Propaganda. Anything he says, viewed in that light, makes perfect sense. He’s pretty bad at American history but passable as Psyops.
I mean look at the level of distension he regularly causes here.
Funny, Cruz did just that.
And you’re castigating him for it.
No, I addressed your comments. You need to explain what your fears are. Why do you think US soldiers will harm US citizens.
Waco was not special forces. The cow thing was not US Soldiers. So those examples don’t apply.
You cannot even say what you think is going to happen because when you actually write it down it sounds crazy, right?
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