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To: Sirius Lee
Serius Lee wrote, "The GOP currently enjoys a majority in the majority of state houses." Evidently you believe that the only the DNC is responsible for our government being so corrupt, and the GOP is our salvation. I would hope and this late hour that we all know better than this. The problem is not just one political party, but centuries of Americans being utterly ignorant as to the Constitution.... and the GOP is emblematic of that ignorance and Corruption.

In the 2010 interim election, the Tea Parties were really becoming an influence in the country, and people were alarmed by what they had seen in only 2 years coming from the White House and Senate.

The GOP's response was to write the"Pledge to America". That 2010 Pledge corrupted the words to the Declaration of INdependence:

“Whenever the agenda of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to institute a new governing agenda and set a different course.”
~ Republican Party, corrupt "Pledge to America", 2010

Apparently the GOP, as with many Americans, thinks that the purpose of government , and elections, is to struggle over which agenda wins, resulting in "Vote harder" and "write more Constitution!".

For those unfamiliar with the Declaration of Independence, what it actually indicates is that whenever government is destructive of our rights, "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it",and NOT to create new agendas. In truth, the whole point behind the Constitution is to prohibit government from exercising any agendas against the citizenry whatsoever, yet what we see now from Article V proponents, is not any impetus to restore the federal government to the limiting "box" of its Enumerated Powers, but rather only to better ensure that government's agendas only meet with people's approval.

Thus, amending the Constitution now will only result in institutionalizing, within the Constitution itself, the very agendas that government should not be able to perform, and actually validating federal government's corruption -- welcome to more ignorant status quo.

For any who do not understand this concept, I recommend they read a brilliant 2010 article by Andrew McCarthy titled "Empty Promise" discussing just those government agendas. and the complicit corruption of the GOP itself .

We would have thought that the GOP would have gotten its act together come the 2012 Republican Primaries, but that's not the case, as many corrupt Republicans wanted Romney as the nominee, despite the fact that his Massachusetts "RomneyCare" was no better than ObamaCare. During a few of those primaries, Romney defended RomneyCare as a "50 Flavors of Democracy", a bastardization of the 10th Amendment "States Rights", in which Americans are reduced to being refugees in our own country, and having to flee from State to State in hopes that one State might still recognize our unalienable rights, and right to self-ownership.

Unfortunately among all those brilliant GOP candidates at those initial debates, not a one of them was able to recognize Romney's "50 Flavors" as a corruption of the 10th Amendment, which does NOT give States the Authority to override our unalienable rights, not even Michelle Bachmann, the "Tea Party Candidate".

For those of you unfamiliar with the 10th Amendment and States Rights, that amendment concludes with "or to the people", which prescribes to the people those same unalienable rights that the founders elevated in the Declaration of Independence. Those founders did not ever voice the idea that it was infinitely preferable to have our rights confiscated by a State government, rather than the federal government, but that is what ignorant Americans believe, and particularly the ignorant representatives in the GOP.

The idea that our Rights do not apply to the State governments, is an early corruption to the terms of the Constitution, created by the Supreme Court itself. Only later did the Court create a whole new corruption to reverse itself, claiming that the 14th Amendment 'incorporated" those Rights for the State governments, and thereby made the Bill of Rights applicable to the States.

News Flash (for some): The Bill of Rights in the Constitution does not actually itself provide us those rights, but only references rights relative to the creation of the federal government that exist outside the Constitution. However many mistakenly believe that because of the inclusion of a Bill of Rights in the Constitution, that our rights can be altered and amended by the same means that the Constitution itself can be amended. No, our rights are "unalienable", and unable to be legitimately amended. Many of those who don't recognize this fact are members of the GOP, and among those who are now calling for an Article V convention. This is yet another reason why it is such a very bad idea to amend the Constitution now.

The GOP running a majority of the State legislatures is not any sort of salvation whatsoever! The root problem with having an Article V convention is the ignorance and corruption of the American people themselves, and that ignorance does not stop outside the GOP.

138 posted on 05/03/2015 9:21:46 AM PDT by LibertyBorn
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To: LibertyBorn; Hostage; Jacquerie
The root problem with having an Article V convention is the ignorance and corruption of the American people themselves...

I run across this opinion a lot at this site, and it is only logical for me to assume that you believe the American people are no longer capable of self-government. If that is so, I see only three possible solutions, and they only open up more questions.

I understand where you are coming from, but I think you have not considered all the possibilities if an Amendment Convention isn't held to prevent us from going over the cliff. What reasonable solutions do you see before we descend into violence and civil war?

153 posted on 05/03/2015 10:35:53 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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