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Republicans in 2016: Rubio Edges Ahead of Walker
Sabato's Crystal Ball, University of Virginia Center for Politics ^ | 4/30/2015 | Larry J. Sabato, Kyle Kondik and Geoffrey Skelley

Posted on 05/01/2015 7:18:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

For Republicans looking ahead to 2016, Florida is the pivotal state in the Electoral College. Naturally, we can’t know exactly what will happen a year and a half from now, but from our current vantage point, it appears very likely that the GOP must win the state to have a shot at winning 270 or more electoral votes and control of the White House.

Given the state’s importance, particularly to the Republicans, it seems appropriate that the top two contenders for the party’s presidential nomination in the Crystal Ball’s rankings now hail from the Sunshine State.

Moving into the number two spot on our GOP list is Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. The state’s junior senator has enjoyed a solid couple of weeks since announcing his candidacy on April 13, and his new position in our candidate list reflects that. He jumps ahead of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, while ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush remains at the top, though it’s important to stress just how tenuous Bush’s slotting remains at this very early point. This trio (Bush, Rubio, Walker) continues to make up our first tier, and they are tightly bunched together.

New survey data reflect Rubio’s improved stature. Prior to his announcement, Rubio had last seen double digits in national GOP primary polling in February 2014. Based on RealClearPolitics’ list of polls, Rubio’s average in the nine 2015 polls taken before April 13 was 5.9%. In the three surveys since his official entry, Rubio averaged 13% and held a (slim) lead in two of them. It’s true that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz got a similar poll bounce after his entry in late March, which seems to have receded somewhat, so it’s entirely possible that Rubio is just the latest benefactor of an announcement bounce.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; rubio; walker
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1 posted on 05/01/2015 7:18:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I fail to see this groundswell for Rubio. Even in Florida, I don’t hear anyone excited. This is beltway circle jerk at it’s best. Walker has a solid hold on Iowa right now, and Cruz has a large base built. Rubio’s definitely in the mix, but this is so contrived.


2 posted on 05/01/2015 7:19:50 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SeekAndFind; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Rubio edges ahead of Walker in latest poll.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, tis Wisconsin interest ping list.


3 posted on 05/01/2015 7:20:54 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ilgipper

Agree! I get the feeling that Rubio is the Establishments surrogate for Jeb until they get Jeb ready for prime time. Rubio is definitely part of Team Jeb.


4 posted on 05/01/2015 7:22:55 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm Ready for Teddy!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t help to think this is nothing more than trying to set up a Lazio vs. Clinton Part Deu.


5 posted on 05/01/2015 7:24:01 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 The RNC better come up with a Winner this time. Run some one like Cruz and Go for Broke!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most anyone would have a hard time convincing me that Saboto isn’t a liberal at heart.


6 posted on 05/01/2015 7:25:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: uncitizen

nope Rubio isnt part of the Bush team...I expect to see the polls go up and down for quite some time till a clear leader emerges. Personally Id be happy with Cruz,Rubio or Walker...and any combo...


7 posted on 05/01/2015 7:27:19 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: uncitizen

nope Rubio isnt part of the Bush team...I expect to see the polls go up and down for quite some time till a clear leader emerges. Personally Id be happy with Cruz,Rubio or Walker...and any combo...


8 posted on 05/01/2015 7:27:51 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: ilgipper

This is nonsense.

Rubio’s support of amnesty doomed his chances for higher office.


9 posted on 05/01/2015 7:28:19 AM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: SeekAndFind

God I hate elections and polls a year before it matters or means anything.


10 posted on 05/01/2015 7:28:36 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind

Well considering Governor Walker hasn’t announced yet, big deal. Only three politicians are running.....Cruz, Rubio and Paul. Nobody else has announced so what is the big deal?


11 posted on 05/01/2015 7:38:46 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: ilgipper

Of those currently officially running, I like Cruz. Things could change. If his supporters turn into Buchanan supporter types then I won’t be able to go along.


12 posted on 05/01/2015 7:40:06 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

Larry Sabato?
‘Nuff said.


13 posted on 05/01/2015 7:54:16 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: napscoordinator

Right. Nobody is a “big deal” right now. The polls won’t matter for a year; they (polls) will fluctuate every time a new candidate announces, someone quits, or someone screws up. As far as Bush or Cristi are concerned, I wouldn’t vote for either one, even if Jesus Christ himself asked me to. I like Cruz, Walker, Paul, and Rubio, in that order.


14 posted on 05/01/2015 7:58:00 AM PDT by Nucluside (ready)
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To: uncitizen

I think you are on to something, there. I certainly never considered that.

After all, Jeb mentored Rubio, and Rubio tried the immigration trapeze act with the Gang of Eight, who are always to the Left of the party, but are also always in good standing with the GOP and senate leadership, McConnell & Company.

Rubio, after the disastrous fail on immigration, turned away from immigration dramatically and was never seen within 10 feet of the progressive Republicans for a year and a half.

They all must like his chutzpah for angling between the extremes, enough to run for president in his own right, or they cut a deal to let him avoid them like the plague.

Florida may decide this race, you know. There are only a handful of states in the mix, if all other things fall the same as last election.

So, do you think given his age and the times, that he is covering his bets, angling to be a pick for VP, especially Jeb’s VP, a match made in heaven by their friendship?


15 posted on 05/01/2015 8:06:22 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

See? That’s exactly what I think. I’m not enthused about any development of Tyrants for Cruz types finishing off FR.

Good grief, it’s only spring! And, only three have even announced! It was bad enough over McCain and Palin. When McCain went down, it was bad over just Palin. We can’t do that gangland pile on stuff. We do need to hope to come together, best we can cooperatively, as conservatives with the leading contender at some point early enough to stick it to Jeb in the primary at the stretch.


16 posted on 05/01/2015 8:14:07 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

I don’t think Rubio is angling for anything. I think he is being directed toward something. The Establishment would want him in that VP slot with Jeb as the candidate. If Jeb doesn’t appear to pull it together through the primaries, then he’ll be replaced by Rubio.

The Establishment wouldn’t mind that at all because Rubio will be even easier to direct than Jeb is. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re already planning on replacing Jeb with Rubio eventually. They just have to work on Rubio a bit to get him ready. He’s got some negative baggage plus he doesn’t appear mature enough yet.

IOW Rubio is their back up plan. plan B if you will.


17 posted on 05/01/2015 8:14:58 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm Ready for Teddy!)
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To: uncitizen

Yep, Rubio is plan B if they can’t get enough suckers to support their preferred amnesty candidate, Jebster.


18 posted on 05/01/2015 8:18:36 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: uncitizen

Right.

So, if the big money is supposedly moving toward Jeb, what about that? Do you think Jeb would naturally support Rubio with it? I guess you think he would, certainly.

I’m curious about RINO deadlines. I wonder when it is that they and the money people draw the line, whether Jeb should even apply for the job, or maybe not.


19 posted on 05/01/2015 8:20:51 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I’m probably wrong about the VP spot though considering Jeb is also from Florida.


20 posted on 05/01/2015 8:20:55 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm Ready for Teddy!)
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