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Tesla Unveils Battery To Power Homes (Solar Energy Storage & Backup Generator Alert)
BBC News ^ | 05/01/2015 | BBC News

Posted on 05/01/2015 12:33:33 AM PDT by goldstategop

Chief executive Elon Musk announced the firm would build batteries that store solar energy and serve as a back-up system for consumers during blackouts.

The device would allow consumers to get off a power grid or bring energy to remote areas that are not on a grid.

Tesla plans to start shipping the units to installers in the US by this summer.

In a highly anticipated event near Los Angeles, Mr Musk said the move could help change the "entire energy infrastructure of the world".

"Tesla Energy is a critical step in this mission to enable zero emission power generation," the company said in a statement.

The rechargeable lithium-ion battery unit would be built using the same batteries Tesla produces for its electric vehicles, analysts said.

The system is called Powerwall, and Tesla will sell the 7kwh unit for $3,000 (£1,954), while the 10kwh unit will retail for $3,500 to installers.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bbcnews; home; lithiumion; newbattery; powerwall; tesla; teslabattery; teslahomebattery
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To: goldstategop

what is the COST per KW.... and how long is the battery life
if economical it could boost the stock because the car sure wont...


41 posted on 05/01/2015 3:45:20 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: goldstategop

Is there enough lithium in the earth’s crust to satisfy these visions of Musk?


42 posted on 05/01/2015 3:49:44 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: 4rcane

So you only turn on five 100 Watt bulbs for one hour each day and no other loads? Or run one hair drier for 15 minutes and turn nothing else on all day?
I think you need new calculator batteries.


43 posted on 05/01/2015 3:54:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: cynwoody

Be fair and assume zero load when he’s sleeping, so it’s 500 W over 16 hours = 31 W. Now we’re cooking! Amost enough to run the iPad charger. Too bad the wifi WAP / router is down, though, due to lack of juice. My iPad DOES put out a lot of light which keeps those pesky old Edison base bulbs dim.


44 posted on 05/01/2015 4:00:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: cynwoody
"30.3 kwh/day average household usage""

That would be extremely expensive--far too expensive to consider for nearly all of us, of course.

"All of the off-grid solutions I've seen involve significant hammering on the demand side as well as pumping up the supply side."

Yes, exactly. No air conditioning, forced air heating or other simple solutions. There'd be clotheslines and unique owner-builds of small utilities all over the place. Chaos!


45 posted on 05/01/2015 4:03:19 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: 9thLife

Factor in the cost of a dedicated detached heated/cooled shed out back. I wouldn’t want that much LiIon on my house.


46 posted on 05/01/2015 4:04:23 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: All

Thanks to all posters.


47 posted on 05/01/2015 4:33:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: The Duke
So, fresh from having (re)inventied the golf cart

Don't see him as much different than Henry Ford in that respect.

Where they differ is that Ford made a product that people needed and wanted, and grew wealthy by selling lots of it.

Musk has grown wealthy by promising to sell a product that few want and none need, and selling little of it.

48 posted on 05/01/2015 4:39:19 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: goldstategop
The last real power outage we had lasted over 3 days. If it can't run a normal house for that long it's no use to me. My wife is dependent on an oxygen machine day and night. I have a gas generator right now.

Is there a tax credit (taxpayer subsidization) for this?

49 posted on 05/01/2015 4:48:40 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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To: goldstategop

Diversifying the electric grid is a good idea but of all sources of power, photo PV cells have are uniquely vulnerable to instant and total destruction by an EMP. Every PV cell in line of sight of an EMP will be destroyed. There is no way to protect them. They are basically EMP antennas.

So, it is just plain imprudent to use PV solar for more than a few percent of our power generating capacity.


50 posted on 05/01/2015 4:56:31 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Jonty30

Another factor in favor of solar/battery storage is their silence.

During some power failures, a generator will be a dinner bell for hungry predators.


51 posted on 05/01/2015 5:10:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: goldstategop
Tesla is redefining the home power generator market.

How is Tesla doing on the new type of car battery they've been working on? You know for the $30K 300 Mile car.

52 posted on 05/01/2015 6:09:54 AM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: goldstategop

ßookmark ed


53 posted on 05/01/2015 6:58:58 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: 4rcane

Your meter reports it as KiloWatts (not kwH).
So you use 0.300-0.500 KW, which is about right for a home where the big stuff is off (stove, dryer, etc.)

So if you are drawing 0.500 KW for 24hrs you multiply the two and get 12kw-H for the day.


54 posted on 05/01/2015 7:12:47 AM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: cynwoody; 4rcane

I’m pretty good at conserving electricity, although I use a little electric heating, but I still used about 133 KWH per month for January and February.


55 posted on 05/01/2015 7:13:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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BFL


56 posted on 05/01/2015 7:28:41 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Travis McGee

My generator masks the noise of suppressed .22 LR firing from the back deck ;) Glad I live in rural AR (outside Little Rock)....lots of good ole boys with NFA toys around here since we have John Norrell (www.johnnorrellarms.com) around here cranking out suppressors.


57 posted on 05/01/2015 7:35:54 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Travis McGee

Besides the noise it’s easy to tell who has power during an outage after it gets dark. Looks like North Korea.


58 posted on 05/01/2015 7:41:38 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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To: goldstategop

The batteries are the key -

you wouldn’t have to charge them from solar.

You could have your backup generator run when the batteries get low and charge them back up, and the generator could shut off.

Also, to keep them topped off, charge them from utility power for emergencies.


59 posted on 05/01/2015 7:44:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Owen

You’re right, I’ve tracked our usage carefully for years, and that’s right in the ball park.


60 posted on 05/01/2015 8:24:01 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Is Ted Cruz himself as mean-spirited as the FR 'Click-it or Tick-it' Cruz Contingent?)
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