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Ted Cruz knocks Mitt Romney: Ted Cruz in the news
Cleveland.com ^ | April 30, 2015 | Henry J. Gomez

Posted on 04/30/2015 11:17:01 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Today's Ted Cruz news: In his speech Wednesday to the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Cruz took aim at 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and his infamous "47 percent" quote. Romney, who of course went on to lose the general election, equated President Barack Obama's supporters with 47 percent of the country who "believe that they are victims" and "entitled" to government assistance.

"Where he got clobbered was 47 percent," Cruz said Wednesday. "I think Romney is a good man who had a hard campaign, but I cannot think of a statement in all of politics that I disagree with more strongly." Read more from CNN.

And for Throwback Thursday, see these similar remarks from Cruz in 2013, when he was the keynote speaker at the Cuyahoga County GOP's Lincoln Day dinner.

Cruz, by the way, is staffing up in Iowa, home of the first caucuses. He has signed up Matt Schultz, the former Iowa secretary of state, to chair his campaign there. He also announced a leadership team. Read more from the Des Moines Register.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2016election; cruz; election2012; election2016; tedcruz; texas
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To: dware

I “think” Cruz is a good man who is still an effing Senator. I suppose it’s to his credit that he’s trying to crawl out of that sewer.


21 posted on 04/30/2015 11:50:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Remember Romney himself or his son made the admission that he wasn’t enthusiastic about being POTUS and wasn’t in the race to win...

RINOS ARE LOSERS. Guaranteed.

That’s why we need TED CRUZ and glad to hear this latest from him.


22 posted on 04/30/2015 11:57:27 AM PDT by gwgn02
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I’m sure Romney was pretty close to an accurate assessment with his 47% remark, in fact I would call that optimistic.

The only way to beat the Dems now will be a combination of attractive policy and divine intervention. With every one per cent that is added to the “Romney factor” the balance shifts further towards divine intervention.

I think it can be done, and if the subsequent victor governs wisely and well, the percentage may begin to decrease again, as it probably did in Reagan’s time. Not everyone in that dependency camp is so rooted that they cannot be changed. Probably everybody in the independent camp is there for the duration. Fortunately, if the right canddidate is on the ballot, more independents than dependents will vote. So they (we) can win even if the Romney factor rises above 50%. Another thing that might help would be if everyone votes only one time, and if everyone who votes is actually a living person.


23 posted on 04/30/2015 12:11:16 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Is it just me, or is there something wrong with political correctness? /s)
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To: SoConPubbie
This conservative DOES NOT agree with your assessment.

That's fine. Doesn't make it any less true.

It was a stupid thing for Romney to say in the midst of a campaign for the very reasons that Ted states.

In other words, be politically correct if you want to win. While I agree that most would say this is the way to go, I'm saying that political correctness is code for BS, and we need to get as far away from it as possible. Political correctness is destroying America. Don't be party to that.

Read the CNN article link in the article to find out WHY Ted stated what he did.

I did read the article, and while I agree that the GOP needs to be concerned with that 47%, the truth of the matter is that there is NO WAY that 47% will ever give a rat's behind about the GOP or what they do/say.

24 posted on 04/30/2015 12:39:59 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: onedoug
I “think” Cruz is a good man who is still an effing Senator.

Right there with ya. This won't make me not vote for Cruz, but he needs to stay away from stuff like this. As part of the vast, right wing, conspiratorial hard core Conservative Tea Party movement, it breaks my heart to hear this from someone that I "think" is a good man. Romulan was very seldom right, but he was 100% correct about this.

25 posted on 04/30/2015 12:42:22 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: ansel12
Romney was unable to ever explain the comment, no one has ever been able to explain, can you since you agree with it supposedly?

Sure! 47% of the voting bloc are totally and completely funded by our tax dollars, handed to them by the left. It really doesn't matter what the right says or does, that 47% (and I agree with a previous assessment, that this is likely a conservative #) will NEVER change. They are entrenched in the leftist welfare plantation. They ain't changing their minds or values any time soon.

26 posted on 04/30/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: rockrr
Even if Romney or Cruz offered the same shameless pandering that wins those votes (hypothetical since I know that neither one would) they would still pull the lever for the “D”.

Precisely. How hard is that to understand?

27 posted on 04/30/2015 12:45:43 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: dware
Sure! 47% of the voting bloc are totally and completely funded by our tax dollars, handed to them by the left.

That would mean the over 65 crowd and the military.

28 posted on 04/30/2015 12:48:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: rockrr

Actually, the social security crowd and the military, are republican voters, the social security crowd is the most republican voting age group of all.


29 posted on 04/30/2015 12:51:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
That would mean the over 65 crowd and the military.

Or, it could ALSO mean the babymomma welfare state, which is usually what pisses us Conservatives off, as opposed to those that deserve to be cared for, like the military crowd. Common sense, FRiend. COMMON SENSE.

30 posted on 04/30/2015 12:55:14 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: dware

So you can’t explain it either.

Care to try again to define who that 47% is?

Romney didn’t say “welfare”, he said 47%.


31 posted on 04/30/2015 1:02:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: dware
I did read the article, and while I agree that the GOP needs to be concerned with that 47%, the truth of the matter is that there is NO WAY that 47% will ever give a rat's behind about the GOP or what they do/say.

B.S.

False Premise.
32 posted on 04/30/2015 1:03:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: V_TWIN
To this day I still believe Romney put his foot on the brake after the 1st debate for what ever reason. In the 1st one he made obama look like the man child we all know him to be......After that it was like he slacked off in the rest of the debates, it was really obvious to me.

One of the most puzzling observations in years. Had the man child on the ropes: refused to pursue victory. Who advised him to do this? Just bizarre!

33 posted on 04/30/2015 1:05:25 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: ansel12
Romney didn’t say “welfare”, he said 47%.

And you know damn well who he was talking about, and it had nothing to do with the military or seniors. Get a grip. I didn't, nor do I, like Romulan, at all. But in this, he was correct. Whether I or you like it or not. He was correct in this, and the TRUE Conservative base knew it. Of course, it wasn't nearly enough to make us vote for him, but that's another story.

34 posted on 04/30/2015 1:05:51 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: SoConPubbie
False Premise.

Okeydokey there, Mr. Rove. Is that you? Lol. I'm sorry, but it's a perfectly legitimate premise, and it's the truth. Go ahead...go hit that 47% up and see how far you get. Go on. Don't wait. Obviously you think I'm wrong. That's fine with me. Go out and prove me otherwise. It won't happen, but get to it.

35 posted on 04/30/2015 1:08:02 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: dware

No, no one could figure out what in the heck, or who that 47% that he insulted was supposed to be, that is why it was so stupid.

He made a huge gaffe, and as you can see, you can’t explain it either.

If you recall, he never could define it or explain it, he didn’t even know what it meant.


36 posted on 04/30/2015 1:09:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: dware
Okeydokey there, Mr. Rove. Is that you? Lol. I'm sorry, but it's a perfectly legitimate premise, and it's the truth. Go ahead...go hit that 47% up and see how far you get. Go on. Don't wait. Obviously you think I'm wrong. That's fine with me. Go out and prove me otherwise. It won't happen, but get to it.

It's an extreme exaggeration, and you know it.

It's an inflammatory statement with no way to prove it.

So you throw out the statement "Go out and prove me otherwise", knowing that that statement can't be proved.

Debate honestly, or sit on the sidelines.
37 posted on 04/30/2015 1:10:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ansel12
If you recall, he never could define it or explain it, he didn’t even know what it meant.

He knew exactly what it meant, and he also knew that he would box himself into a corner with the libturd media if he expounded on it.

38 posted on 04/30/2015 1:12:40 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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To: dware

LOL, everyone is correct, it was an incredibly stupid remark.

Clueless, that is why you cannot define it or explain it.


39 posted on 04/30/2015 1:16:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: SoConPubbie
knowing that that statement can't be proved.

I said there's no way the 47% will ever give a rats behind about the GOP. The 47% includes the likes of the rioters in Fergison/Baltimore....the 47% includes those on the statist welfare plantations...the 47% include those that own obama phones and get their heavily subsidized health care plans via the obolacare websites...Now, tell me how much those very people give a rat's behind about the GOP?

40 posted on 04/30/2015 1:23:48 PM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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