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To: Swordmaker
"There you have the facts, from the horse's mouth."

No you posted a press release from a corporate entity.

The "horses mouth" would be the pilots involved.

Now either the pilots made an announcement on those flights that the units shutdown or they didn't BUT several sources claim that is what was announced over the intercom of the flight.

I'll believe pilots before I believe a Corporate spokesman. Bottom line it was bad enough flights were grounded until there was a fix. If they weren't grounded then they would have flown without the fix.

Which points to a system that can be shutdown with a single update glitch.

Single Point failure.

The fix is easy hard copy available quickly in case it happens again, or they change the rules that you can go ahead and fly with a glitchy app/unit. If no easily obtainable backup is made available for each flight or the rules aren't changed then it can happen again and it can be much bigger. AND the same goes for airlines using other units besides Apple. The nature of the gizmos sets up a single point failure in the system because ALL the units using the APP or ALL the units using the software can glitch when they are updated and they are updated via the internet/wifi. So it can happen very fast unlike the days when you manually updated software by actually inserting a CD/DVD or a floppy disc.

208 posted on 04/30/2015 2:25:23 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg; Star Traveler; dayglored; amigatec; Loud Mime
No you posted a press release from a corporate entity. . .

The fix is easy hard copy available quickly in case it happens again, or they change the rules that you can go ahead and fly with a glitchy app/unit. If no easily obtainable backup is made available for each flight or the rules aren't changed then it can happen again and it can be much bigger. AND the same goes for airlines using other units besides Apple. The nature of the gizmos sets up a single point failure in the system because ALL the units using the APP or ALL the units using the software can glitch when they are updated and they are updated via the internet/wifi. So it can happen very fast unlike the days when you manually updated software by actually inserting a CD/DVD or a floppy disc.

No, the airlines statement has to standup to the FAA investigation should there be one, and the scrutiny of Sarbanes-Oxley per the truth of corporate statements made by management. The Pilots have reported to their bosses. TWEETS mean nothing. As we've said you believe rumors, from people who report HEARSAY. That does not hold up anywhere.

You haven't heard from the pilots. You've heard hearsay from passenger's tweets. I pointed out that those tweets have to be incorrect at least in one way with the "24 minutes" claim. I might believe 24 seconds, but not "24 minutes" but that gives you an example of the problem with hearsay. Both pilots are supposed to have their charts up and running at the same point in the check list, not 24 minutes separation. People do not remember exactly what was said even a few minutes later. The articles and YOU are reporting what the TWEETS said, not the pilots, because that's ALL they had to report on because the Airline had not yet said what happened. Now the airline has made a statement of exactly what happened after finding out exactly what happened and solving the problem, explaining how it was caused, and how they handled it!

What part of downloading a PDF to the iPad for the glitched chart did you fail to see? What part of providing paper charts for the ONE airport that they did not have a corrected chart for, did you also fail to see? You keep wanting to make a major case out of an easily solved problem. What part of no other flights were cancelled did you fail to read? What part of it was easily handled by downloading a new version of the app and a new database do you fail to understand?

You do not want to accept all of that. YOU want to blame Apple for something that was not Apple's fault at all.

Tell me, Mad Dawgg: What interest does American Airlines have in protecting Apple's iPads over Jeppeson Avionics as the cause of this incident? I am pretty sure American Airline's yearly licensing fees to Jeppeson Aviation for up-to-date Charting data for out weighs the costs of buying all the iPads for every pilot and co-pilot in their employ. These licensing fees are what keep Jeppeson Avionics in business. Give me one good reason why American Airlines would choose to denigrate Jeppeson Avionics, a company with which they have a far more intimate relationship, than the American Airlines has with Apple inc, and instead blame Jeppeson, the company they have an almost daily relationship with—a company whose product is required for AA's business to operate—to protect the reputation of the product of a company that merely supplied the platform for that software?

Your absurd theory fails right there.

214 posted on 04/30/2015 12:00:01 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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