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Scalia: 'Why no ancient Greek gay marriages?'
World Net Daily ^ | 4/28/2015 | GARTH KANT

Posted on 04/28/2015 3:33:45 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Jan_Sobieski

Breyer noted heterosexual marriage has been the law everywhere for thousands of years, and suddenly Bonauto was asking for immediate change.

“Why can’t these states wait and see” if the other states’ experiments in gay marriage leads to harm?

Bonauto answered that under the 14th Amendment’s equal-protection clause, the same-sex couple she represented should not have to wait. Furthermore, she claimed, changes to previous marriage laws, such as eliminating prohibitions to inter-racial marriage, had been greatly unsettling to many people, but it was still the right thing to do.

***Under her reasoning, then the 19th amendment was completely unnecessary as were the civil rights and voting rights acts.***

The point of the 13th and 14th ammendments were to make whole and equal under the law the rights of blacks and Indians.

Oh, and to ensure some debts were paid as a result of 600, 000 dead guys actions...


21 posted on 04/28/2015 3:55:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: dp0622

“The John” Roberts will stab us in the back???


22 posted on 04/28/2015 3:55:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Zactly. The ancient marriages were formalized contract with terms and conditions for expected behavior and outcomes agreed upon as a result of their unions.

Modern licensing sought to provide some equity in marriage or the dissolution of unions entered into but failing to spell out terms and conditions of their contract.


23 posted on 04/28/2015 3:58:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

The Bushes couldn’t even pick the right judges. Geez!!! how could you get that wrong? or maybe they knew what they were doing.


24 posted on 04/28/2015 4:00:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Zactuhmundo!!!

And in those instances were they have created a civil union, they spelled out the terms of that union, it’s dissolution or the death of one partner or both.

Prenups are a form of such contracts but, typically only heard of and rarely between those of certain economic means.


25 posted on 04/28/2015 4:02:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: dp0622

They are generally giddy and careless in regards to that ussue...


27 posted on 04/28/2015 4:03:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Hey, when you're gettin' the cow for free...

28 posted on 04/28/2015 4:03:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
yet neither culture ever considered approving same-sex marriage

Approving? How about redefining marriage to make homosexuals feel better about themselves? Any homosexual is free to marry anyone else of an opposite gender and legal age, circumstances.
29 posted on 04/28/2015 4:04:38 PM PDT by Vision (Living in beauty)
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To: fishtank

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30 posted on 04/28/2015 4:05:26 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Just asking: is there a constitutional right to heterosexual marriage?

The Admiral


31 posted on 04/28/2015 4:06:05 PM PDT by admiral52 (Admiral52)
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To: Vendome

How about “calculating” and condescending”?

That would describe the Bushes MUCH better............


32 posted on 04/28/2015 4:06:36 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Does history repeat itself?

No, but it often rhymes.

33 posted on 04/28/2015 4:06:49 PM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: admiral52

Good question!


34 posted on 04/28/2015 4:07:19 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

insulting article about a Great Justice, in my opinion


35 posted on 04/28/2015 4:07:51 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: Sherman Logan

There is a discussion of worldwide historical same-sex unions to be found in an article on Wikipedia. Note how the article distinguishes an historical difference in some cultures between same-sex unions and marriage in many historical instances.


36 posted on 04/28/2015 4:08:05 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: dp0622

Oops ... I was lazy... didn’t read to teh end...


37 posted on 04/28/2015 4:09:36 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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38 posted on 04/28/2015 4:10:01 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
You may be confused.

Pederasty or paederasty (US /ˈpɛdəræsti/ or UK /ˈpiːdəræsti/) is a (usually erotic) homosexual relationship between an adult male and a pubescent or adolescent male. The word pederasty derives from Greek (paiderastia) "love of boys", a compound derived from παῖς (pais) "child, boy" and ἐραστής (erastēs) "lover".

Referring to two adults engaging in pederasty is a contradiction in terms.

The Minoans probably originated the practice of pederasty in the area, from which it spread to the Dorian invaders of Crete and from them to the rest of Greece. But I'm unaware of any evidence at all that any of them ever called the relationship a marriage.

Same with the Sodomites. AFAIK, there is zero archeological evidence, mainly because we've never found Sodom. But the other Canaanites did not practice SSM.

Unless you've got some evidence I am unaware of?

39 posted on 04/28/2015 4:10:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Jan_Sobieski

This could become ve-r-r-r-ry interesting in late June when the decision is announced. I expect a bad decision. But then, Ted Cruz is drafting a proposed amendment to the Constitution that would exempt the states from equal protection requirements regarding the definition of marriage. Should be right in his wheelhouse as SCOTUS announces the term ending opinions.


40 posted on 04/28/2015 4:10:39 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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