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What would be a good plan to help someone being attacked?
TNoldman

Posted on 04/14/2015 5:29:39 PM PDT by TNoldman

May question is raised after I saw News Reports of a girl being raped by 4 guys while others on the beach watched.

I am 80 and generally carry a 1911 concealed. What if I come on a similar situation? I would call 911... then what?

Try to get others involved to stop the attack? Shooting an attacker might be excessive.. also I may be in the midst of a mob.

I would like to see some discussion.


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To: Bulwyf

Thank you. Learned a couple of valuable lessons that night.


101 posted on 04/15/2015 5:55:12 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Travis McGee

There is a complete transcript of the trial in the book “Heart and History of Holmes County” by Anna Padgett Wells”.

The author, who we all called “Aunt Annie” was the Mother of “Paul Stanley” who was golden gloves champion of Florida.

I am not sure of the details of the pardon. I know he continued using that old Winchester as I recall Daddy telling of him using it. It was in 25-20 caliber. I guess the pardon would have been in the WWI era as the Governor was Sydney J. Catts.

Grandpa Bill also patented the road grader. I have seen the patent.


102 posted on 04/15/2015 6:20:11 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: mrsmel; Salamander

they go to what used to be a 99% white college students event for precisely what these guys took by force or drugs

These black yute masses are a threat where they vacation same as where they live the rest of the year

I was in South Beach recently

Same thing at the Ocean Drive area of Collins Abe

My wife was terrified

Today they look like this over amped overweight giant butts

Just big in general with braided dreadlocks

And covered in tats in dark skin which makes no sense

Wheelie bikes

Bad behavior just taking over like a movie need not be mentioned and Predator

And whites hand wring and make excuses

The local govt does nothing

At least here in Nashville when the goblins started invading lower Broadway from across the river the local govt after business pressure started stopping and searching and nipped it before it took over

That honky tonk strip is Nashville and was worth saving

They have made French Quarter nasty too

Don’t ever go when it’s black event time

Memphis riverfront same thing

I don’t know if whites will ever defend their way of life or culture again against these forces of mayhem


103 posted on 04/15/2015 7:01:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: wardaddy
Spring Break Violence is a Black College Thing (American Thinker)
104 posted on 04/15/2015 7:28:00 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: wardaddy
Racial Politics - The Talk: Nonblack Version
105 posted on 04/15/2015 8:06:05 AM PDT by Gritty (It's obvious to me 'racism' is 99% fake and hatred of religion is 98% real - Jonah Goldberg)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Wow

I’m surprised someone would touch it


106 posted on 04/15/2015 9:36:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: webstersII
You speak as though you are an expert. How about you describe some of the unarmed and armed confrontations you have been in.

You speak as a child. How about you just be quiet.

107 posted on 04/15/2015 10:17:42 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Travis McGee
I’ve known 80 year olds who never stopped working, even after “retirement,” and who are as hard as flint and can outwork most 20 year old slackers.

I already said I know they exist. But not one of such men would be confounded and afraid if they came upon a gang rape when they were packing a 1911.

108 posted on 04/15/2015 10:20:57 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: S.O.S121.500

In Arizona:

13-411. Justification; use of force in crime prevention; applicability

A. A person is justified in threatening or using both physical force and deadly physical force against another if and to the extent the person reasonably believes that physical force or deadly physical force is immediately necessary to prevent the other’s commission of arson of an occupied structure under section 13-1704, burglary in the second or first degree under section 13-1507 or 13-1508, kidnapping under section 13-1304, manslaughter under section 13-1103, second or first degree murder under section 13-1104 or 13-1105, sexual conduct with a minor under section 13-1405, sexual assault under section 13-1406, child molestation under section 13-1410, armed robbery under section 13-1904 or aggravated assault under section 13-1204, subsection A, paragraphs 1 and 2.

B. There is no duty to retreat before threatening or using physical force or deadly physical force justified by subsection A of this section.

C. A person is presumed to be acting reasonably for the purposes of this section if the person is acting to prevent what the person reasonably believes is the imminent or actual commission of any of the offenses listed in subsection A of this section.

D. This section includes the use or threatened use of physical force or deadly physical force in a person’s home, residence, place of business, land the person owns or leases, conveyance of any kind, or any other place in this state where a person has a right to be.


109 posted on 04/15/2015 10:24:22 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: wardaddy

It surprised me, too.

That elephant in the room just keeps growing...


110 posted on 04/15/2015 10:33:18 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: Talisker

Just as I suspected.

You’re a keyboard warrior with an opinion backed up by no real-world experience.

Have a nice day.


111 posted on 04/15/2015 11:27:33 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
Just as I suspected.You’re a keyboard warrior with an opinion backed up by no real-world experience. Have a nice day.

Just as I said, you're a child.

112 posted on 04/15/2015 12:39:02 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

LOL. You crack me up.


113 posted on 04/15/2015 12:56:43 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
LOL. You crack me up.

I think not.

114 posted on 04/15/2015 1:22:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

No, seriously, you do.


115 posted on 04/15/2015 1:36:23 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

I doubt it.


116 posted on 04/15/2015 5:01:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Oh yeah. Just use your imagination. It’ll come to you.


117 posted on 04/15/2015 6:57:31 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

Ding, time’s up. Bye.


118 posted on 04/15/2015 7:11:00 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: IMR 4350

This isn’t about me. Focus, cowboy.

The answer to your post is the pistol makes the 80 year old into a young man. They lose, he wins.


119 posted on 04/15/2015 7:54:06 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

No a pistol doesn’t make an 80 yo man a young man.

It makes him an 80 yo man with a pistol.


120 posted on 04/15/2015 8:12:11 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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