Posted on 04/13/2015 11:47:23 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
"........The Wisconsin governor leads in the latest Fox News poll..,leads in most Iowa polling and is either tied or ahead in New Hampshire.
Even with Paul,Cruz,Ben Carson and Mike Huckabee all at or near double digits,Walker is within 1.2 percentage points of Bush in the RealClearPolitics polling average.And even that is mainly attributable to an ABC News/Washington Post poll that has Bush up by a bigger margin than any other recent survey.
Since his announcement,Cruz has been pretty consistently been polling in the double digits.PublicPolicyPolling found his national support exploding from 5 percent to 16 percent.
What if that happens to Rubio and Paul too?At some point,it has to start eating into Walker’s base...
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...Walker is a governor,and for some Republican voters who have take the criticism of Barack Obama’s “community organizer” past seriously,that’s going to count for something.He can argue that his three tea party upstarts are simply a debating society.
Just as important,for the moment Walker is beating Bush.You don’t have to engage in total wishful thinking to think he might be a credible general election candidate.
Conservatives have been hungry for that.Not since Ronald Reagan has one of their own become president. Most years,conservatives have to decide between their principles and throwing away the presidency on a Michele Bachmann type who can’t win.
You know in your heart who’s right,but you know in your gut who can win.
That’s going to be a hard thing to beat.It’s an all-or-nothing proposition,however.If at some point Walker no longer looks like he can beat Bush or that he is not as strong of a Hillary opponent as Rubio or Paul,he is in trouble.
Conservatives might be in trouble too.The only way Jeb Bush can win the nomination is if conservatives fracture.What’s made this season different is that so far they haven’t. But the primary season is still young.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
I watched Rubio last night on the Hannity show and came aw with the feeling Rubio is a “wishful thinker”. He did NOT energize me towards his plan to gain the voters confidence enough to become POTUS. He is a smooth talker with “quick trigger” answers. It almost sounded like he had been given the questions ahead of time, so much so, the answers (IMO) did not convince me. Although this was his first shot at the target, he still has along way to go to gain the prize.
Thank you ma’am. Means something coming from you.
Ben Carson has 10% of the Republican vote. People are tired of politicians. He has a good analytical mind and if he manages to start expanding his base, I think he would make a good president.
“The news for Jeb Bush is not as good. Among Republicans, his base, 42 percent said that they would not vote for Jeb Bush under any circumstance, according to the Bloomberg poll. A third of his base will not support him. That is devastating.”
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/mark_segal/Jeb_Bush_you_can_win_Heres_how.html#V2UKhU3FYbCoc5l9.99
Robio has the same problem as Walker. They are both weak on amnesty and both lack the world stage presence we need in our President. Walker is Mr. Rogers and Rubio is Potsie.
Good point. I forgot about that.
However, residency can be changed in 30 days.
Saying that a man who ever thought that being allowed to own semi-automatic weapons depended on where you live “has a good analytical mind” is comical. Just try to imagine how small is the cultural box in which he’s crawling around. I’d rather see him try to convert to being A Ferrari or Lambo mechanic. More in line with his skills.
The good news is that Rubio will fracture the GOPe vote.
I know what Walker says Now after taking some heat. What troubles me is his previous positions when he is quoted and what he reportedly said behind closed doors. I hope he has wised up, but with Cruz running with a solid, unwavering position on illegal immigration, I have to support the guy who has earned my trust.
Well, I’m sorry, but Mr. Rogers comes to mind everytime I see Scott Walker, even his speaking style. It didn’t help any when the press spent a week talking about his sweater purchase. Mr. Rogers is a great guy. Scott Walker is a great guy. I just don’t think it would be a good idea to have him sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin.
That IS her job - to say outrageous things about republicans.
If the republican is a conservative, she has to be more offensive.
If the republican is Ted Cruz, she has to change her unmentionables...
What you’re doing is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”:
5) “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
12) “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions
Debbie Wasserman-Test employs those tactics by, for example, calling a certain Republican a “Flat Earth society worshiper”.
I employ the tactic in return by comparing her to Venereal Disease.
I think we should beware of using Alinsky tactics against our own.
YMMV
I made an observation about Walker’s persona or presence as a potential world leader. I think it matters that we have a President who projects power and confidence and who has a leader’s charisma. If Walker reminds me of Mr. Rogers, he just does. I’ve never read Saul Alinsky, but I do know that I have the right to free expression. Attempts to curb free speech could also be described as a tactic to marginalize the opinions of others. I’m not sure why my opinion has riled you so much unless it hit a nerve that it might have some validity.
I suggest that you should. Know the enemy. The 0bamas, and the Clintons, and their ilk view Alinsky as some sort of unHoly Writ.
I have the right to free expression.
Indeed you do. I also enjoy that right.
my opinion has riled you
There you go again. This isn't about me. This isn't even specifically about Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, or anyone else in particular. This is about how we conservatives generally deal with our own internal vetting process. Name-calling and pejorative labeling and imputing of motive have no place in reasoned debate or discussion. I think we should save that for the enemy.
Full Disclosure:
1) TED CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT
2) Rubio and Walker are obviously not my first choice.
3) Bush and Cristie and their ilk as candidates would be disastrous.
LOL, no kidding.
Go home and stay in the operating room where you belong, Ben.
Are you some kind of DNC operative, yosemitest?
If not, kindly holster your weapon and observe Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment.
Stay positive.
Yeah, 10 posts on that thread, and not much about Walker, they seem terrified.
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