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White septuagenarian 'pay to play' cop shoots dead unarmed black suspect
Telegraph ^ | 04/13/2015 | Nick Allen

Posted on 04/13/2015 12:41:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

Probably.

And it’s too bad, because it certainly looks like there is a legitimate problem with the way that police department is handling this. But, Sharpton and his ilk will inject so much race-hatred and idiotic invective in to the case that I will be tempted to side with the department and the wanna-be cop.


21 posted on 04/13/2015 1:08:19 PM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: ansel12
As he lay dying Mr Harris could be heard on the video screaming: "Oh, God. Oh, he shot me; I didn't do s---." Another officer replied: "You f---ing ran. Shut the f--- up." Mr Harris then said: “I’m losing my breath." An officer replied: "F--- your breath."

Not sure what Harris was whining about - at least they didn't go all San Bernardino on him... /s

22 posted on 04/13/2015 1:10:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“...Bob Bates, 73, a millionaire insurance executive...”

Not anymore.


23 posted on 04/13/2015 1:21:57 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The dept may have found no wrongdoing, but the wanna-be has apparently been charged with 2nd-degree manslaughter nonetheless, if Twitter is anything to go by.


24 posted on 04/13/2015 1:23:18 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: ansel12
As he lay dying Mr Harris could be heard on the video screaming: "Oh, God. Oh, he shot me; I didn't do s---." Another officer replied: "You f---ing ran. Shut the f--- up." Mr Harris then said: “I’m losing my breath." An officer replied: "F--- your breath."

Some other cops need some retraining firing.

No amount of retraining would be enough to trust those thugs with a gun and badge ever again.

25 posted on 04/13/2015 1:27:09 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Regulator

“Might wanna subtract one or two from those multi-millions by the time the Harris family lawyer gets finished...”

According to what I was arrogantly taught by an alleged freeper on another thread a few days ago, the family in this case DOES have a right to sue and are NOT greedy opportunists, because the offending cop does have money and can be held liable. Otherwise, as the logic went, it would only be the taxpayers who would pay, so the family wouldn’t deserve anything.

Shaking my head (without an acronym)...


26 posted on 04/13/2015 1:29:28 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: carriage_hill
“...Bob Bates, 73, a millionaire insurance executive...”

Not anymore.

Yup. Actual police officers can usually assert qualified immunity to shield themselves from personal liability in cases like this. I don't know that a pay-to-play reserve officer will be able to do the same.

27 posted on 04/13/2015 1:31:48 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Responsibility2nd

still scratchin my head... why shoot a guy who is already dead ?


28 posted on 04/13/2015 1:34:26 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Eddie Mush)
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To: Theoria

That’s been my thought this whole time too and it’s never mentioned. What’s wrong with selling someone a 9mm? That’s what they said this guy did. That’s not against the law is it?


29 posted on 04/13/2015 1:36:05 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll
I'm guessing the guy was trying to sell a gun to a known 'criminal' or he was a criminal and could not possess a gun.

Having or selling a gun should not be a crime; even for criminals.

30 posted on 04/13/2015 1:44:19 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Putting oneself into the position of the police being the judge, jury, and executioner is not too smart. Interesting how certain groups of people, a sub-culture of all groups continues to play this very dangerous game. It’s a self fulfilling situation.


31 posted on 04/13/2015 1:47:23 PM PDT by keving (We get the government we vote for)
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To: Theoria

They said it was an “undercover”. Maybe the cop said “hey I’m a felon can I buy a gun from you?”


32 posted on 04/13/2015 1:48:39 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Responsibility2nd

Musta been feeling his Viagra.


33 posted on 04/13/2015 1:49:56 PM PDT by moovova
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To: The Toll

Wouldn’t surprise me.


34 posted on 04/13/2015 1:50:06 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I feel sorry for the old man. Obviously, he was just trying to help out by “sort of” covering the guy while the other cops subdued him. Obviously too, he “apparently” just got excited or the adrenalyn was flowing and he pulled the trigger accidentally.

Nonetheless, a man is dead that shouldn’t be and “I’m sorry” just doesn’t cut it.

This is so abysmyally stupid and un-necessary that it is hard to even comment on.

While I’m at it, I feel sorry for the victim’s family too. The crime he was alledgedly being pursued for should not have involved him getting shot dead.


35 posted on 04/13/2015 2:22:36 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“... pay-to-play reserve officer ...”

Until I read about this incident, I never knew that kind of thing even existed. I knew about reserves, but not pay-to-play.


36 posted on 04/13/2015 2:36:21 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: DoodleDawg

My son did ‘ride alongs’. He wore a vest and was never permitted a weapon. He didn’t speak to anyone (except the policemen when they were in the car).

He was a civilian observer.

What this damn department was doing is beyond my imagining. That old man never should’ve been out there and armed.


37 posted on 04/13/2015 2:53:56 PM PDT by Marie
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Bob Bates, 73, a millionaire insurance executive” and pay-for-policy constituent. It would be interesting to see a list of the rest of them.


38 posted on 04/13/2015 3:56:37 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Such safaris have been conducted for at least more than a couple of decades. The pecuniary benefits can be enticing indeed.


39 posted on 04/13/2015 4:06:45 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I suppose if he was sworn in and had some level of training beforehand, he may be able to get home free. But I suspect the LEO are circling the wagons on this one.


40 posted on 04/13/2015 4:11:54 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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