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To: DiogenesLamp
""The southern states had a right to leave. Similarly, the slaves had a God given right to overthrow their "masters", by force if necessary. "
I agree. I always liked the John Brown approach to the problem."

I agree with this sentiment as well. The right of revolutionary withdraw of the consent of the govern is so central to the idea of a free republic that one could not be sustained overtime without such a right.
The reason is really not that difficult to understand nor observe in the history after our "civil war" even as the Federal Constitution to the extent it persisted as a limits upon the power of Washington had largely restarted the grown and abuse of federal power in years sense. Taking a decade or a century the end is almost invariably the same.
Those in power tend to uses that power to benefit themselves with increasing disregard to the unfair burden they transfer upon those out of power. Thus more and more laws effecting the same end are created with ever greater degrees of inequity built into their design until such time that the oppressed and abused minority as little choice but to collapse or rebel again in search of freedom.
221 posted on 04/11/2015 10:31:16 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
I agree with this sentiment as well. The right of revolutionary withdraw of the consent of the govern is so central to the idea of a free republic that one could not be sustained overtime without such a right. The reason is really not that difficult to understand nor observe in the history after our "civil war" even as the Federal Constitution to the extent it persisted as a limits upon the power of Washington had largely restarted the grown and abuse of federal power in years sense. Taking a decade or a century the end is almost invariably the same. Those in power tend to uses that power to benefit themselves with increasing disregard to the unfair burden they transfer upon those out of power. Thus more and more laws effecting the same end are created with ever greater degrees of inequity built into their design until such time that the oppressed and abused minority as little choice but to collapse or rebel again in search of freedom.

I sum it up as "The issues of that war are still with us today." We are still facing an oppressive Federal leviathan which no longer protect our interests.

Slavery was going to disappear eventually. Mechanized agriculture was just a few decades away, but the issue of Federal Dominance and opposition to Independence, is still with us.

We are all being destroyed by Federal monetary policy and we have no way to get loose from it.

235 posted on 04/11/2015 11:35:21 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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