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Why the Confederacy Lives
Politico Magazine ^ | April 08, 2015 | EUAN HAGUE

Posted on 04/10/2015 5:03:22 PM PDT by lqcincinnatus

One hundred-fifty years after Appomattox, many Southerners still won’t give up.

One hundred fifty years ago, on April 9th, 1865, Gen. Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox Court House and the Union triumphed in the Civil War. Yet the passage of a century and a half has not dimmed the passion for the Confederacy among many Americans. Just three weeks ago, the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) appeared before the Supreme Court arguing for the right to put a Confederate flag on vanity license plates in Texas. Just why would someone in 2015 want a Confederate flag on their license plate? The answer is likely not a desire to overtly display one’s genealogical research skills; nor can it be simplistically understood solely as an exhibition of racism, although the power of the Confederate flag to convey white supremacist beliefs cannot be discounted.

Rather, displaying the Confederate flag in 2015 is an indicator of a complex and reactionary politics that is very much alive in America today. It is a politics that harks back to the South’s proud stand in the Civil War as a way of rallying opinion against the federal government—and against the country’s changing demographic, economic, and moral character, of which Washington is often seen as the malign author. Today’s understanding of the Confederacy by its supporters is thus neither nostalgia, nor mere heritage; rather Confederate sympathy in 2015 is a well-funded and active political movement (which, in turn, supports a lucrative Confederate memorabilia industry).

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: confederacy; dixie; iowacorn; iowatroll; neoconfederate; northstarmom; northstartroll; scv; south
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To: rockrr
Don’t laugh - there are those who feeeeeeeeeel that the Whiskey Rebellion marked the beginning of the end. Looking at some around here I can just imagine.

Oh hell, don't stop there. Washington's 10,000 troops versus the Whiskey Rebellion distillers, Hamilton with his treasury bonds, Jefferson with his Louisiana Purchase and the Marines, Jackson wanting to invade South Carolina, Taylor wanting to hang anyone who even mentioned "secession". Fedzilla everywhere! lol

581 posted on 05/17/2015 11:30:47 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
"I don't usually go all "fedzilla"

But when I do it's to make the Lost Cause FReepers whine!"

582 posted on 05/17/2015 11:54:28 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

lol


583 posted on 05/18/2015 4:32:16 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Oh, I can point to a lot of examples that contributed to Fedzilla, just nothing by Lincoln. You claim it was all Lincoln.

I claim Lincoln STARTED IT. I didn't say it was all Lincoln. Lincoln just set the Precedent. Teddy Roosevelt continued it. Woodrow Wilson went even further. Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt pushed it massively forward. LBJ Killed us with it, Nixon followed thereafter, as did Carter, then we had George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, George W, and now Barack Obama.

All of these people expanded Fedzilla, but Lincoln was the first person to initiate the trend.

I would say When Wilson brought in the international bankers to throw the Federal Reserve System on us, that was the biggest jump-start to Fedzilla. Then there was FDR with his paying farmers not to work, stealing our gold, land grabs, progressive taxation, everything else he did. Then there was Lyndon Johnson with his Great Society. Nixon a little with wage and price controls. Carter and his anti-market rhetoric, Bill Clinton with his land grabs and progressive taxation, then Obama continuing the traditions of the earlier Democrats. There are individual actions that we can point to as contributions to Fedzilla. It's amazing you make your claims and yet you cannot point to a single example to back your claims.

Oh, I can point to examples, but if you can't see them yourself, it is utterly pointless for me to try to persuade you. It's like being unable to see the color "blue". I can't make you see it, and I don't feel like trying. It's not worth my trouble.

584 posted on 05/18/2015 7:03:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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Oh, I can point to examples, but if you can't see them yourself, it is utterly pointless for me to try to persuade you.

Of course it appears entirely outside your field of vision that perhaps Partisan Gunslinger isn't as gullible as you.

585 posted on 05/18/2015 8:04:59 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

The wind blows.


586 posted on 05/18/2015 2:49:11 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

...and diogenes the dimbulb says something stupid. SSDD


587 posted on 05/18/2015 2:55:31 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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...and diogenes the dimbulb says something stupid. SSDD

I would imagine that from your perspective, everything sounds like gibberish.

588 posted on 05/18/2015 3:49:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
I claim Lincoln STARTED IT. I didn't say it was all Lincoln. Lincoln just set the Precedent. Teddy Roosevelt continued it. Woodrow Wilson went even further. Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt pushed it massively forward. LBJ Killed us with it, Nixon followed thereafter, as did Carter, then we had George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, George W, and now Barack Obama. All of these people expanded Fedzilla, but Lincoln was the first person to initiate the trend.

Yet you can't point to a single event involving Lincoln or piece of legislation supported by Lincoln as an example.

Oh, I can point to examples, but if you can't see them yourself, it is utterly pointless for me to try to persuade you. It's like being unable to see the color "blue". I can't make you see it, and I don't feel like trying. It's not worth my trouble.

You've made umpteen posts telling me it's not worth your time. Why not spend just one post giving me an example.

The reason why you won't is you have nothing.

589 posted on 05/18/2015 11:11:08 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Yet you can't point to a single event involving Lincoln or piece of legislation supported by Lincoln as an example.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. I'm really not interested in playing this game with you.

590 posted on 05/19/2015 6:43:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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Damn. Is this crap still going on?


591 posted on 05/19/2015 6:45:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. I'm really not interested in playing this game with you.

Yeah, the "Back Your Claims" game sucks when it can't be done.

592 posted on 05/19/2015 9:19:49 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Yeah, the "Back Your Claims" game sucks when it can't be done.

I'm sure it does, but I wouldn't know from personal experience. On the other hand, I can tell you all about explaining color to the blind.

593 posted on 05/19/2015 11:34:59 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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I'm sure it does, but I wouldn't know from personal experience.

What were you saying about "denial"? lol

594 posted on 05/20/2015 10:20:43 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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