Posted on 04/10/2015 5:03:22 PM PDT by lqcincinnatus
One hundred-fifty years after Appomattox, many Southerners still won’t give up.
One hundred fifty years ago, on April 9th, 1865, Gen. Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox Court House and the Union triumphed in the Civil War. Yet the passage of a century and a half has not dimmed the passion for the Confederacy among many Americans. Just three weeks ago, the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) appeared before the Supreme Court arguing for the right to put a Confederate flag on vanity license plates in Texas. Just why would someone in 2015 want a Confederate flag on their license plate? The answer is likely not a desire to overtly display one’s genealogical research skills; nor can it be simplistically understood solely as an exhibition of racism, although the power of the Confederate flag to convey white supremacist beliefs cannot be discounted.
Rather, displaying the Confederate flag in 2015 is an indicator of a complex and reactionary politics that is very much alive in America today. It is a politics that harks back to the South’s proud stand in the Civil War as a way of rallying opinion against the federal government—and against the country’s changing demographic, economic, and moral character, of which Washington is often seen as the malign author. Today’s understanding of the Confederacy by its supporters is thus neither nostalgia, nor mere heritage; rather Confederate sympathy in 2015 is a well-funded and active political movement (which, in turn, supports a lucrative Confederate memorabilia industry).
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Northern states did pass individual state laws outlawing slavery or defining a plan for emancipation. They couldn’t “simply make slavery illegal” - they knew that would take an amendment to the Constitution.
Couldn’t, wouldn’t, shouldn’t, sounds like excuses excuses excuses.
It wasn’t even attempted. That says a lot about how much moral outrage was involved, i.e. none.
If the moral differences between the North and South were so irreconcilable, then secession would have been the perfect way to solve the problem. Apparently, the North NEEDED the South to stay in the Union, no matter what they were doing to blacks.
Not that whites in the North were a bunch of racial egalitarians, even as late as the 1970s.
So enough of the libtard talk. Don’t like the Confederate flag? Tango Sierra. It’s going to be around as long as people get outraged by it. Trying to eliminate it will send it underground, where it will gain even more power as a subversive symbol.
Don’t be a dolt.
Good answer there Junior. Go home and get your f^&$%@# shinebox.
OK (if you insist) do go ahead and be a dolt.
(there’s just no pleasing some people)
That is crazy. Without the South, the USA would be fully communist. It was socially unacceptable to vote for the Party of Lincoln in the South.
“Yeah, the states rights to own slaves.”
Like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did?
Did the Communistic Police in New England grant you conceal carry yet? And which side won? LOL
Also of interest is Mary Boykin Chestnut’s “A Diary From Dixie” which she kept throughout the War and knew many of the Confederacy’s major figures firsthand from her husband’s influence as a major political participant and General.
It's the same issue you dolt.
Your attitude exemplifies and is the reason why the South wanted to dissociate from a land populated by self righteous assholes.
Can't, Because Lincoln may have killed the republic in body but the spirit lives on. Mostly down here. STFU
Neither George Washington or Thomas Jefferson went to war to protect the Peculiar Institution.
And yet the south voted reliably for dhimmicrats, including Wilson and FDR up until 1948 - and even at that split their vote until Nixon in ‘72.
Yes I have direct relatives (only 1 generation removed)who would never vote for the Party of Lincoln all the way up to the 1970’s. It was socially unacceptable until more recent times to vote Republican.
Voting against your own self interests is kinda silly, doncha think?
It is hard to believe this but the Democrat Party had a conservative wing at one point. Not anymore.
Wilson was the first progressive. The south voted universally for him. FDR was a prog. The south voted universally for him. Adlai Stevenson was a liberal dhimmicrat. The south voted conclusively for him. LBJ was a hard leftist. Half of the south voted for him. Carter was a liberal dhimmicrat. The south voted universally for him.
So much for the conservative wing.
Yes, it took a a long time for the scales to fall from Southern eyes and see that the socialist Democrats really were socialists. It was sad to see conservatives act so foolishly. Seems like the the conservatives will have to leave the Republican Party just like there GF's left the Democrat Party. Conservatives are like the Jews wander a political desert. It's not a new thing.
A Rebel Governor of Virginia wrote to the Virginian General commanding the Rebel Army. The Governor complained that his slaves were being freed by the Union army as it passed through Virginia, and he wanted the General to do something to stop it.
The Rebel Governor was Jefferson, the General was Washington. The Union was the United Kingdom, fighting the traitors waging a war of secession against the legitimate government.
“Neither George Washington or Thomas Jefferson went to war to protect the Peculiar Institution.”
Dunmore’s Proclamation of November 7, 1775. Dunmore was the Royal Governor of Virginia.
Dunmore’s Proclamation is but one of the two emancipation decrees proclaimed by the Union government during the war of secession.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunmore%27s_Proclamation
“In the official document, he declared martial law and adjudged all patriots as traitors to the crown. Furthermore, the document declared ‘all indentured servants, Negroes, or others...free that are able and willing to bear arms...’ “
In 1779 the Union government issued its second Emancipation Proclamation, the Philipsburg Proclamation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipsburg_Proclamation
“The proclamation extended the scope of Dunmore’s Proclamation, issued four years earlier by Virginia’s last Royal governor, Lord Dunmore, granting freedom to slaves in Virginia willing to serve the Royal forces. The new document, issued from Clinton’s temporary headquarters at the Philipsburg Manor House in Westchester County, New York, proclaimed all slaves in the newly established United States belonging to American Patriots free, regardless of their willingness to fight for the Crown. It further promised protection, freedom and land to any slaves who left their master.”
Also, unlike what we did in WWII, once we devastated the south we did nothing to build it up. It fell into bitterness and poverty like nothing the country had suffered up until then. Just read the short stories of Thomas Wolfe where he recounts his family’s suffering during Reconstruction! Shocking, to say the least. It’s akin to what the allies did after WWI - doing nothing to alleviate the poverty of Germany and laying the foundation for WWII.
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