Posted on 04/10/2015 5:03:22 PM PDT by lqcincinnatus
First I remind them that the spelling is “Sumter”. And then I laugh at the foolishness of such a far-fetched notion.
They didn’t obviate Massachusetts’s responsibility by virtue of the Fugitive Slave Act or taney’s Prigg v. Pennsylvania to render aid to slavers in the capture of runaway slaves. And it didn’t “just end slavery” in the other states.
I thought that would be your answer. Just seeking confirmation.
Happy to oblige ;’)
I am really tired over all these Civil War threads. A thousand entries, no minds are changed and once again we wage war - a war of words, but a war nonetheless.
THE CIVIL WAR WAS OVER SLAVERY. WHAT WE FORGET IS THAT SLAVERY WAS CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL; THUS A STATE RIGHT. THE SOUTH WAS RIGHT.
It must really suck to give up the dream of Liberty so easily. I will continue to fight for what you give away.
The few "northern" states that had slavery (if you can count Kentucky and Missouri as "northern") were the ones most sympathetic to the confederate cause. The CSA even tried to count them as members of the Confederacy in spite of the fact that they DIDN'T secede, due to the large number of pro-slavery citizens in those states that were cheering on the CSA's efforts.
The north did not have slaves after the war, slavery was abolished by the 13th amendment. We could do that because the United States of America allows for the abolition of slavery, UNLIKE the constitution of the Confederate States of America, which explicitly forbid abolishing slavery. (by the way, the CSA constitution also said nothing about "states rights" and sometimes even placed MORE restrictions on state powers than the US constitution had)
Try again.
The Union generals were uncouth degenerates.
Yea and the southron pResident was a cross-dresser. Happy now? ;’)
I haven’t given anything away. I also don’t live in a fantasy world.
The early Repulicans were the equivaalent of present day libs. After agreeing to the Compromise of 1850 as Whigs, they started a new party so they could denounce the law.
Just like Hillary, Lurch, and Biden voted for the Iraq war resolution and immediately started criticizing it when Bush employed its provisions.
Just like modern libs want Israel to give up some tangible and permanent (West Bank land) for a promise of future peace (an intangible), the South accepted the promise of stricter enforcement of the fugitve slave laws for the admission of California as a state.
If you must negotiate with statists, avoid accepting an unenforceable promise for a tangible. (Now that I think about it, sounds kinda like GWH Bush accepting the promise of future spending cuts for today’s tax increases - or maybe the 1986 promise of border enforcement for legalizing 3 million - or Wimpy’s “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.”
The South should have seceded in the early 1850s - when there were plenty of constitutionalists on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line. Much better chance of reconciliation and compromise then.
The purpose for the Emancipation Proclamation was to keep Britain from supporting the South.
Britain looked forward to an independent Confederate nation with whom to trade for cotton. The North had stiff tariffs on cotton, which financially hurt both the Southern states and Britain — the South sold less cotton than they would without the tariffs, and Britain would have paid lower costs for the cotton.
The enormous success of General Lee’s armies early in the war emboldened Britain to ally with the Confederacy and offer supplies for them at the very least, and possibly naval support.
Great Britain had just abolished slavery in 1833 - just one generation before.
The Emancipation Proclamation succeeded in pitting British public opinion against the slave holding south, and prevented the British from supporting the South with arms, munitions, material and naval support.
We will be flying the Stars and Bars 100 years from now.
You do realize that the confederate constitution PREVENTED the elimination of slavery? Section 9, Article 4 of the confederate constitution sanctified the Peculiar Institution in perpetuity.
Slavery was going nowhere (literally).
Deo Vindice
and the CBF ....
Sure happy to know that you appreciate my sentiments.
........geesh.
How can a state not in the union vote to ratify an amendment to that union ??
The "South" is an attitude and not a region.
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