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I get why so many on this site disparage San Francisco, our gay population while once active are all pretty old now, our politics stink too. This is really a nice place to have lived and raised our kids, we will retire soon and plan on moving mostly for tax purposes, but it has been a great 25 years here. Hope your daughter enjoys it here and your visits have been nice. Next time you may try Grace Cathedral on top of Nob Hill, Episcopalian but a nice building - it is a replica of Notre Dame in Paris.

Our daughter lives in San Jose, so it was a day trip to San Francisco. She will be married in Santa Cruz in a few weeks. We will be coming out to celebrate with her. Beautiful area, but expensive. We always hoped that she would move back east, but he is from Fresno, so it’s doubtful.