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To: Art in Idaho
Well, Art, now that you've posted your (very good) boilerplate, I'll post my (boring, pedantic) boilerplate.

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The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.

Disposal:

Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.

Explicitly forbidden:

Implicitly forbidden:

I have two reference works for those interested.

The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I dislike some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see the view of the ruling class toward the process.

Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee

49 posted on 04/05/2015 11:45:14 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
Your boilerplate is very good! Thanks for posting!
51 posted on 04/05/2015 12:00:19 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Publius
The Constitution of 1787 may not be abrogated and replaced with a new document. Article V only authorizes “a convention for proposing amendments to this Constitution”; therefore, the Constitution of 1787 is locked in place forever.

Well, that's the design.

This brings up a few questions:

How well are we following the Constitution's design now?

How well is the President following his oath of office?

How effective is Congress holding him to his oath?

How well is the Supreme Court upholding our Constitution's design?

If we were closer to following the Constitution in the first place, I would encourage this convention. But we're not.

I know. Damn the questions and blowback. Full speed ahead.

76 posted on 04/05/2015 1:26:16 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; don't gamble on forgiveness.)
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