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Ray Odierno: Army changes tattoo policy, effective immediately
washingtontimes ^ | April 1, 2015 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 04/02/2015 12:36:31 PM PDT by PROCON

Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno confirmed Wednesday that the Army will change its unpopular tattoo policy, with looser rules that allow for more ink to take effect in the near future.

“Society is changing its view of tattoos and we have to change along with that. It makes sense. Soldiers have grown up in an era when tattoos are much more acceptable and we have to change along with that,” the general said while speaking at a conference in Huntsville, Alabama, Army Times reported.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: tattoos; usarmy
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To: PROCON

"Reporting for duty, SIR!"

41 posted on 04/02/2015 1:47:59 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Responsibility2nd
Sure. Of course. Whatever you say.

That guy has problems that have nothing to do with tattoos.

You do realize members of the U.S. military, in all services, and of all ranks, have had tattoos for decades, right?

42 posted on 04/02/2015 1:49:29 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: gdani

So have thugs and punks. Tattoos have never been acceptable. Just tolerated.


43 posted on 04/02/2015 1:51:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: gdani
Allen West? Winston Churchill? Thomas Edison? Teddy Roosevelt? Andrew Jackson?

An old German-American priest.

44 posted on 04/02/2015 1:51:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Tattoos are all about GETTING ATTENTION!


45 posted on 04/02/2015 1:52:52 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Jeff Chandler
An old German-American priest.

You misunderstood my reply (which I wasn't clear on).

All the individuals I named have tattoos.

46 posted on 04/02/2015 1:55:31 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Steely Tom

Well, I guess to you, I as a military retiree WITH tattoos and my wife who is also a former military member WITH tattoos are gang members or could not have honorably served. We’re in our 60s and have served honorably in spite of any notions about “evil” tattoos from the public.

It’s not about gangs, or anything else. I served with a Marine NCO who gained a battlefield commission. He had several tattoos and had been a member of a NYC 50s greaser gang. Judge gave him the choice, he enlisted and was a model Marine. Gang members have been joining for a long time.

The gays in the military problem is far removed from this as well. That is something that needs to be fixed and fast; military members have had tattoos going back to our founding, long before gangs were a real problem.


47 posted on 04/02/2015 1:57:19 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The new tattoo rules are not that lax; that guy wouldn’t be enlisted and you can’t honestly believe that he would even consider enlisting. But, whatever you think (you’re still wrong).


48 posted on 04/02/2015 1:59:27 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: gdani
All the individuals I named have tattoos.

Funny, none of those people are associated with tattoos. Apparently their tats aren't/weren't apparent. Which disqualifies them as ornamentation, doesn't it?

49 posted on 04/02/2015 1:59:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: PROCON

Leviticus 19:28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks on you: I am the LORD.


50 posted on 04/02/2015 2:01:23 PM PDT by Regal
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve known Marine Corps colonels who had tattoos. They have long been acceptable within set boundaries and the new rules don’t expand those boundaries to neck or face ink.


51 posted on 04/02/2015 2:02:14 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Winner!


52 posted on 04/02/2015 2:04:53 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Regal
Leviticus 19:28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks on you: I am the LORD.

That would rule out pierced ears, too.

And, speaking of Leviticus, it also outlaws wearing clothes made of more than one fabric, cutting your hair or shaving, eating various animals & going to church within 33 days of giving birth to a boy. Among other gems.

53 posted on 04/02/2015 2:06:35 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Regal

Well, God hasn’t struck me dead yet. Old testament verbiage written and rewritten by many men, and kings who assembled the various books and traditions that they favored. I don’t think my God will reject my soul which has no tattoos, nor do I think he will reject my corrupted and decayed flesh at the final judgement.


54 posted on 04/02/2015 2:08:01 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: PROCON
My dad's experiences in WWII warned me of tattoos.


55 posted on 04/02/2015 2:13:26 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: RJS1950; gdani

I’d like to say that I was encyclopedic in my knowledge of Scripture, but i reality I looked this particular passage up when I saw it on Facebook, tatooed on someone. Ironic tat.


56 posted on 04/02/2015 2:22:32 PM PDT by Regal
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To: PROCON; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


57 posted on 04/02/2015 2:29:28 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: savagesusie

I think some people are just ignorant or young and impressed with stupid stuff, too.

But yup there are a lot like you describe too.


58 posted on 04/02/2015 2:48:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PROCON

59 posted on 04/02/2015 2:51:11 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Agreed. They might make good soldiers but they’re still copycats caught up in a herd like mentality. Today’s youth are the most impressionable in history. That’s why there are so many tatted people. It’s a cheap and effortless way to express your “individuality,” especially when you’re incapable of expressing it any other way. In an age of massive and unparalleled immediate gratification this is what you get. These tatted soldiers are a symptom of the times, immediate gratification with no thought of the morrow. No restraints and self-indulgence are the new zeitgeist. An age where adolescents are precocious adults and adults perpetual adolescents; a time of self-indulgence and hedonistic self-absorption. If they want to express themselves they should try expanding your mind to include more than the various “Ink” shows (in HD at that) and get a vocabulary of over fifty words. I suspect it true that there’s a recruiting problem, hence this new leniency on tats.


60 posted on 04/02/2015 3:05:54 PM PDT by donaldo
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