Posted on 03/29/2015 5:14:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
Andreas Lubitz: Germanwings flight's last minutes revealed in chilling black box transcript
29 March 2015 By Alex Wellman
Patrick Sondheimer is heard screaming to his co-pilot "Open the goddam door" as passengers scream in the background
The dramatic last moments of the doomed Germanwings flight have been revealed in a chilling transcript of the black box recording that shows the captain screaming at Andreas Lubitz “Open the goddam door”.
Patrick Sondheimer, pilot of the traffic plane, is heard frantically pleading with the killer to let him into the cockpit, just seconds before crashing into the Alps.
BEA Germanwings CVR
Evidence: The Cockpit Voice Recorder of the Germanwings plane has shown the terrifying last moments of the flight
The recording is said to begin normally, with the captain apologizing to passengers for an almost 30 minute delay in Barcelona.
He then tells them he expects the flight to make up the lost time mid-flight to Dusseldorf.
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Revealed in the German newspaper Bild, the recordings then show the tragic captain chatting with Lubitz for the next 20 minutes.
According to the paper, the killer co-pilot then tells Mr Sondheimer he can go to the toilet at any time – noting that he had not relieved himself at the airport in Barcelona.
A short while later, 10.27am, the plane has reached its cruising altitude of 38,000ft and the captain tells Lubitz to prepare for the landing.
According to investigators, the co-pilot’s responses are said to be “laconic”, with the 27-year-old using phrase such as “hopefully” and “we’ll see”.
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(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...
Problem is the more systems and warnings you pack into a plane, the more likely one of them will malfunction and work against you. Or the software can be sabotaged/hacked. An insane pilot is extremely extremely rare but computer failure is common.
For that reason every airliner can always revert to full manual mode and each of the hand controls are multiple redundant. Giving the pilot full control to respond to mechanical failure is more important than keeping control from a potentially crazy pilot
Yeah I just read that it made a glancing blow and then went into a ravine or valley. How traumatic it must have been.
Imagine if the pilot would have been armed. I would have gotten thru a locked door with my firearm.
And more.
PRP also covered maintenance personnel.
Cars have sensors which stop them from backing into a wall. Not sure why planes couldn’t feature something similar to avoid flying into mountains.
Last I checked, cars were not overriding the drivers on highways.
You link that doesn’t work is for a .dtd file.
What is that?
When I look at the photo of the mass murderer with the Golden Gate Bridge in the background, I can’t help but think he would have done humanity a favor by jumping from it.
They have ground proximity warning systems, as noted in the CVR transcript. Whatever they would have would have to be able to be turned off else the plane could never land.
It says something about your choice of direction when your enemies start using your own defenses against you.
Sorry he would live to fly another day the loony left put nets under it
But i dont understand you said you could have stopped it
You gonna tell me I wouldn’t have tried ?
One of my first questions was ‘were there any air marshals on board?’
I suppose it was anyone with any access to nukes. There were big red stenciled letters "PRP" on the outside cover of their medical records.
Makes me remember Slim Pickens.
Air marshals? That's for paranoid Americans. Or I should say "was".
Yeah, one of the things that bothers me about flying, is that in decades past it was unheard of that a commercial pilot would NOT have learned to fly in the military. Hence, by the time a guy flew passengers he was experienced and well seasoned. If you didn't have military training you didn't get hired, period.
The stress of the combat training would have spit this psycho out by about year three. General aviation, maybe private flight instructor, that's as far as he would have gone.
Now any idiot can "sign up" to become a pilot. Isn't that nice?
I call nonsense on your pronouncement that in the past, non-military were not allowed, or that none existed.
Certainly not world-wide.
Maybe you’re mistaking the high percentages of MIL trained - in the US - proving regulations.
I have never heard such a thing, and I’m pretty history-savvy. Source?
Hopefully this tragedy will drive the development of diagnostic tools that will let us detect.......”.
I see and somewhat agree with your point. Giving the govt power to read our minds as they do in the sci fi movies is worrisome.
The crux of this specific problem was the Germans not having a policy in place when the co-pilot or pilot left the cabin that a steward etc had to be left behind. Under no circumstances could only one remain in total control of the door and the lives. It would have likely prevented this.
This same unilateral freedom to act out or kill by some exists also in gun free zones. It’s about power to some. Someone gets in with a firearm and they know no one can stop them from killing others.
People need to know in these situations if possible, that there are deterrents in place....such as a steward in the captains chair in his absence or in the case of theaters or schools, members of the public (or as teachers) that may be armed thus posing a threat to unilateral unmitigated ability to kill an attacker if (and it is a rare if) such an individual in that situation has a penchant to act out a fantasy of killing etc.
Has anyone heard the airplane control nuts and media demanding that airplanes be banned? Instead the focus is on the individual who did this and not the inanimate object that had nothing to do.
What’s the link you are referring to?
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