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Passengers screamed as captain took axe to cockpit door
www.thetimes.co.uk ^ | 03-27-2015 | Staff

Posted on 03/27/2015 8:14:20 AM PDT by Red Badger

As they plunged towards their deaths, one of the last things seen by passengers and cabin crew near the front of the Germanwings Airbus A320 was their captain, Patrick Sonderheimer, desperately trying to smash down the door of the cockpit.

For several minutes on Tuesday morning the airliner had been inexplicably descending from cruising altitude towards the Alps with its engines idle.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: airplane; crash; germanwings
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To: Red Badger

1. It’s good to know that those cockpit doors are sturdy enough to keep out bad guys, even if they had an axe.

2. It’s good to know that there’s an axe handy in case a good guy gets locked out.

3. What about bad guys now knowing there are axes handy?


21 posted on 03/27/2015 8:21:35 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: left that other site

How often does a copilot mutiny?


22 posted on 03/27/2015 8:22:24 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Noamie

Heck, I'll add to this: Then you let a Muslim drive?

IN their defense, he does appear to at least have been a secret Muslim.

Maybe the axe was secret, too. A secret axe hidden away where only the flight crew knew about it? Still seems like a weird policy to me.


23 posted on 03/27/2015 8:23:08 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Red Badger

I thought the Axe was kept in the cockpit.

Did he take the axe with him to the bathroom?


24 posted on 03/27/2015 8:23:12 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Paine in the Neck

My guess, the axe is locked in a box that a key is needed to get into. But now everyone knows the pilot has the key.


25 posted on 03/27/2015 8:23:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Such a think would require an amazing overhaul of technology.

Probably a more comprehensive examination of a potential pilot’s emotional, mental, physical, and “religious” state would be a lot cheaper.

But that would be, of course, “PROFILING”! (Perish the thought!)


26 posted on 03/27/2015 8:23:36 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The door is small...and after the successful passenger break-in United 93...they were designed to withstand that type of attack..


27 posted on 03/27/2015 8:23:36 AM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Once is too many times...but there ya go.


28 posted on 03/27/2015 8:24:07 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: caligatrux

I suspect if, in an emergency landing..the doors can’t open, or the escape chutes won’t deploy..or to punch open a window..


29 posted on 03/27/2015 8:24:56 AM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: caligatrux

If even a “Moose” at all (there ARE “wacky cults” in the world that have nothing to do with Mohammed)


30 posted on 03/27/2015 8:25:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The space where the door is is very narrow, and only one person can fit thru it at one time, and a skinny one at that...............


31 posted on 03/27/2015 8:25:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

<<< Where did he get an AXE? >>>

You had to axe?


32 posted on 03/27/2015 8:25:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: caligatrux
"So, you lock the door to the cockpit to prevent it from being hijacked, and force every (non-Muslim) passenger to get a cavity search before getting on board... and then you leave axes lying around to chop the door down? "

It does seem a bit flawed.

33 posted on 03/27/2015 8:25:49 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ken5050

Then get ALL of the men on board to form a battering ram. That door will not be able to withstand that kind of force!


34 posted on 03/27/2015 8:25:49 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Passageway is small..as is door area...can’t apply that much force..


35 posted on 03/27/2015 8:26:51 AM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

3. What about bad guys now knowing there are axes handy?

4. Since there are already axes on the plane, can I start bringing my 1" nail clippers in my carry-on again?


36 posted on 03/27/2015 8:26:57 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: thackney

Must be near the cockpit door and probably in a locked compartment that only the crew, and possibly only the captain, have access to............


37 posted on 03/27/2015 8:27:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: caligatrux

Perhaps for a jammed exit door?.............


38 posted on 03/27/2015 8:29:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: ken5050

I suspect if, in an emergency landing..the doors can’t open, or the escape chutes won’t deploy..or to punch open a window..

Good thoughts, but you could have one of those window breakers for the windows and a crowbar for the door. While both still dangerous tools, at least they aren't axes.

And can you really hack your way out of a plane with an axe?


39 posted on 03/27/2015 8:29:43 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Red Badger
Axe? I'm wondering if I can get one of these thru security...


40 posted on 03/27/2015 8:29:48 AM PDT by moovova
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