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To: DoughtyOne

I agree there is truth to what you say.

Cops depend on each other in life and death situations. Doesn’t happen every day, and for many cops such a situation never really arises. But there’s always the chance today might be the day.

By definition, such a relationship creates strong bonds and a desire to protect. And that’s all to the good.

But the problem is that there is also a downside. Particularly when carried too far.

The militarization and extreme force used by cops that has become more reported in recent years leads me to wonder about something. Likely most conservatives I generally discounted black people with their complaints of police brutality.

But could it be that cops are now bringing out into the wider community methods and attitudes they’ve always had when dealing with the black community? Could all those minorities complaining about police brutality have been at least partialy right?


39 posted on 03/26/2015 11:16:19 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I agree there is truth to what you say.  Thank you.

Cops depend on each other in life and death situations. Doesn’t happen every day, and for many cops such a situation never really arises. But there’s always the chance today might be the day.  Yes, sadly there is.

By definition, such a relationship creates strong bonds and a desire to protect. And that’s all to the good.  

Yes it is, but there is reason to expect good men to come forward and be frank about what they see.  Now is that wise in a society as litigeous as ours?  Probably not.  I may not like this, but it's probably true and universal department(s) policy.


But the problem is that there is also a downside. Particularly when carried too far.  

Yes, I believe it can be.  I don't believe it is the individual officer's duty to comment on what another officer has done, but it also should be said they shouldn't cover for, or lie for their fellow officer either.  Where that happens, offending officers should face the charge of being an accomplice after the fact.

The militarization and extreme force used by cops that has become more reported in recent years leads me to wonder about something.

It has led me to a conclusion, beyond mere wondering.  The no knock raids have become so over the top, that it's a recognizable abuse of the public's good will toward law enforcment for them to be carried out as they are, and more importantly, as prolifically as they are.  I would also recommend that a county-wide agency be established where possible, so that there be only a limited number of swat teams out there, and under one jurrisdiction, and severely limited as to under what circumstances they should be used for.

Likely most conservatives I generally discounted black people with their complaints of police brutality.  

And so have I, but I will say that I have been open to the idea of there being abuses.  I will also acknowledge that the first act of a crook caught dead to rights, is to try and find falt with the officer as his only defense.  Just like the Clintons, these crooks instinctively know that all you have to do is offer up (even a lie) a plausible excuse or story, and you're peeps will always support you.  Hell, most of them will knowing the full truth.  Hey, Blacks have a break coming because of history.  Gack!

Now, this being said, I also want to acknowledge that these officers know their districts.  They know the players.  They've run into them many times before.  So not only do they know what the perp is capable of, but they also get to the point they probably want to deliver a message to the perp, "Quit -------- with us, because this is only going to get worse for you."  Now that may be wrong, but I think it's a factor.  It's human nature.  It may also be effective with some players, when nothing else is.


But could it be that cops are now bringing out into the wider community methods and attitudes they’ve always had when dealing with the black community? Could all those minorities complaining about police brutality have been at least partialy right?


Well, in some instances yes.  In others these folks know exactly what the problem is.  They know little Razbo has been a prick even at home, at school, to kids in the neighborhood, to small animals...  None of that is mentioned when they morn little Razbo in front of the evening news feed cameras.  Some of this may play in the wider community too.  Then again, we know that officers are human too, and sometimes they do screw up.



42 posted on 03/26/2015 11:48:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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