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Cue the Ted Cruz birthers… again [Once more with feeling: "Is he a natural born citizen?"]
Hotair ^ | 03/23/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/23/2015 8:36:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Now that Ted Cruz is officially in the Presidential race, you may rest assured that some of the same people who considered it an insult of titanic proportions to even ask to see President Obama’s birth certificate will be kicking off a similar conversation regarding the Texas Senator. Because, you know… he’s a gosh darn foreigner. For the few of you who may have missed it, Cruz was born in Canada. His father was from Cuba but his mother was a US citizen. As our colleague Guy Benson explained over a year ago, this one isn’t even a question.

For the uninitiated, the Texas Senator and conservative stalwart was born in Calgary, Canada — prompting some to insist that he’s not a “natural born citizen” and is therefore ineligible for the presidency. But there are only two types of citizens under the law: Natural born Americans (from birth), and naturalized Americans, who undergo the legal process of becoming a US citizen. Cruz never experienced the latter proceedings because he didn’t need to; his mother was born and raised in Delaware, rendering Cruz an American citizen from the moment of his birth abroad. Meanwhile, Cruz hasn’t even indicated if he has any designs to pursue a White House run — he’s got his hands full in the United States Senate. National Review has more on this preposterous “debate:”

Legal scholars are firm about Cruz’s eligibility. “Of course he’s eligible,” Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz tells National Review Online. “He’s a natural-born, not a naturalized, citizen.” Eugene Volokh, a professor at the UCLA School of Law and longtime friend of Cruz, agrees, saying the senator was “a citizen at birth, and thus a natural-born citizen — as opposed to a naturalized citizen, which I understand to mean someone who becomes a citizen after birth.” Federal law extends citizenship beyond those granted it by the 14th Amendment: It confers the privilege on all those born outside of the United States whose parents are both citizens, provided one of them has been “physically present” in the United States for any period of time, as well as all those born outside of the United States to at least one citizen parent who, after the age of 14, has resided in the United States for at least five years. Cruz’s mother, who was born and raised in Delaware, meets the latter requirement, so Cruz himself is undoubtedly an American citizen.

This was the same conversation that took place in 2007 and 2008 regarding John McCain. (McCain was born in Panama.) At the time, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama signed on to a simple resolution (along with the rest of the Senate) declaring that Senator McCain was “a natural born citizen” and eligible for the presidency. Given the current, rather toxic climate inside the beltway, I have to wonder if Ted Cruz will be offered the same consideration?

Perhaps a better question, though we’ve kicked this one around here before, is whether or not the Supreme Court will ever rule on this definition once and for all so we can just be done with it. True, we have some federal laws on the books which cover such things and they are frequently referenced when these discussions come up. And there’s absolutely nothing to indicate that this interpretation is any way unconstitutional.

And why would it be? The prevailing wisdom seems to at least have the benefit of sounding reasonable to the layman. Going back to the writing of the Constitution it was recognized that there are only two types of citizens recognized. You are either a citizen at the time of your birth or you become one later by going through the naturalization process. If we have to pick one of these two classes to be “natural born” it seems a rather easy choice.

But, yet again, that answer won’t be “permanent” (for lack of a better word) without the Supremes weighing in on it. And for that to happen, someone would have to challenge it. And that someone would have to have standing to even bring the challenge. You know… the more I think about it, maybe we should just stick with what we have now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; president; tedcruz
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To: publius911
Although I don't need or seek further proof, when he attempts to grant himself a pardon when leaving office

I don't know if he'll attempt to pardon himself; that seems like an overt admission of guilt — more likely he'd bank on being able to take down essentially all the members of congress during his tenure as president, and possibly nominate himself for USSC position.

41 posted on 03/23/2015 9:06:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

I thought you have to be “BORN” within the borders of the United States to be Prez..


42 posted on 03/23/2015 9:07:28 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: reed13k

It does not matter, the Traitor Party already has their Judges lined up waiting to rule against him no matter what the actual law is....


43 posted on 03/23/2015 9:08:16 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Liberals won’t have to question Cruz’s natural-born citizen status. There are enough conservatives willing to do that for them.

There are still a few Americans left that are willing to defend the Constitution.

44 posted on 03/23/2015 9:08:34 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: chicken head

Says you. However, Congress and SCOTUS say otherwise.


45 posted on 03/23/2015 9:09:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Mechanicos
It does not matter, the Traitor Party already has their Judges lined up waiting to rule against him no matter what the actual law is....

Both parties stood by as Obama was illegally installed in office.

46 posted on 03/23/2015 9:10:26 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Godebert
There are still a few Americans left that are willing to defend the Constitution.

Or their interpretation of it anyway.

47 posted on 03/23/2015 9:11:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: JimRed
Now that it's a white conservative in question is the "proper time", right?

Maybe. [/bitter sarcasm]
It really bugs me that so many are not willing to do a complete about face on the issue now that our guy has a shot, but willing to insult/deride/humiliate those who refuse to alter their stance.

48 posted on 03/23/2015 9:12:25 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: taxcontrol
Says you. However, Congress and SCOTUS say otherwise.

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

49 posted on 03/23/2015 9:12:35 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: OneWingedShark

*not only


50 posted on 03/23/2015 9:15:32 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Godebert

RE: The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

What does “PARENTS” mean? One parent or BOTH?

If the latter, then Obama should not have been eligible, but that’s all water under the bridge now.


51 posted on 03/23/2015 9:16:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: chicken head

Sorry, that is incorrect.

“natural born” means that at the time of birth, the person is a citizen and does not need to be naturalized. Congress has the SOLE and EXCLUSIVE authority as an enumerated power in the Constitution to make the rules of naturalization. That means that Congress set the rules for who is and is not a citizen at birth. According to the rules set forth by Congress, Cruz is a natural born citizen.


52 posted on 03/23/2015 9:16:24 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: chicken head
I like cruz, alot.. but he wasn’t born here.. Right?

No he wasn't.
But neither was George Washington.
There was no "here" here at the time.

53 posted on 03/23/2015 9:16:24 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: DoodleDawg
"Or their interpretation of it anyway. "

There was only ONE definition of 'natural born Citizen' at the time the Founders wrote the Constitution.

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

54 posted on 03/23/2015 9:18:00 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: SeekAndFind

There is something exceedingly odd that so many people with questions (rightly or wrongly) about their NBC status decide to run for President. It is not a good thing for this country.


55 posted on 03/23/2015 9:18:52 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Liz; 9YearLurker

As wrong as 9YearLurker’s post was, why did you cut off this portion of his post?

“On the other hand, every other prospective serious candidate in the GOP is worse than Ted on the issue.”


56 posted on 03/23/2015 9:20:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Natural born is no longer relevant. Barack Hussein has terminated that concept. For real. I am not being sardonic.


57 posted on 03/23/2015 9:20:15 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: chicken head
I thought you have to be “BORN” within the borders of the United States to be Prez..

George Romney was born in Mexico and John McCain was born in Panama.

58 posted on 03/23/2015 9:21:51 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama precedent baby!


59 posted on 03/23/2015 9:22:52 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: chicken head

Right, but his mother is a citizen, which makes him a citizen at birth.


60 posted on 03/23/2015 9:23:27 AM PDT by CityCenter (Breathe, Focus, Execute)
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