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To: Steelfish
The point I was making is that we need a single infallible authority that Chirst chose to select His written Word. It is indisputable that the early Church fathers under the first Popes following Peter painstakingly gathered hundreds of various manuscripts, pored over them for nearly 300 years, and the Synod of Rome in AD 382, a full eleven centuries before the appearance of the Reformation, set forth God’s written word.

Except they were missing the most important thing...the authority and direction from God to do these things.

Notice that the Apostles, who were in direct communication from God, literally face to face, didn't choose one writing over another. God never gave that direction. Nor did Jesus when He was on the earth.

In fact, it was said: 2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Therefore, your church fathers were actually acting against the will of God by choosing one writing over another and discarding most of it.

The fact is, they had no authority to discard any scripture or any writings from the prophets. They should have kept it all.

The list of writings they handed down in 382AD cannot be the final authority in anything because it's incomplete.
171 posted on 03/23/2015 8:34:16 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
The fact is, they had no authority to discard any scripture or any writings from the prophets. They should have kept it all.

I'm just amazed that you'd try to go here!

176 posted on 03/23/2015 10:41:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
The list of writings they handed down in 382AD cannot be the final authority in anything because it's incomplete.

Says WHO?

177 posted on 03/23/2015 10:42:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper

Well, this Petrine authority was not plucked from air. Any basic scriptural research including the findings of the early Church Fathers on this matter are crystal clear.

Until the reformation, the canonical texts as assembled by the Church in the Synod of Rome AD 382 and its interpretations through seven Councils were uniformly adopted including by many mainline Protestant denominations.

Simply citing to fragmentary quotes of scripture is of little avail. Essentially, you and other Bible Christians are trying to say that the great theologians of the times from Augustine to Aquinas to Newman to Benedict whose works are extensively studied as part of the core curriculum of theological departments in all the major universities world, all got Petrine authority wrong including those learned scholars and theologians among Lutherans who converted to Catholics.! That my dear friend is a hard if not impossible sell except to those who wallow in the shallow end of the pool of theological inquiry.


178 posted on 03/23/2015 8:19:49 PM PDT by Steelfish
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