[Grateful2God]

>>>I understand your frustration with me; but isn't it misdirected?<<<
No you don't understand. Mary, to a Catholic, is not God. She is the Mother of God and our Mother. I would so much rather you insulted me, than to speak of her as you do.

>>>It is YOUR chosen religion's leaders that has made it THEIR business to exalt, venerate, adore and otherwise pay WAY too much 'attention' to Mary; the Mother of Jesus.<<<
Yes, Catholicism is my chosen Faith. It is not up to anyone to decide how much "attention" we pay to her. She is not God and never claimed to be. I love Our Lady! That love is because of my love of God, not in place of it!

>>>There is NOTHING in my description of her that in ANY way goes against what your church is teaching about her.<<<
That statement is a totally erroneous opinion, based on an obviously limited understanding of Church Teaching. We are each entitled to our opinion, although the best discussions involve respect for those opinions whether or not one agrees.

>>>You just do not like the plain language that I have typed.<<<
Mind-reading.
In posting, plain, not crude, language stating one's opinion in a considerate manner would be appropriate. When Mary is repeatedly insulted, her relationship with Joseph focused on repeatedly, thus impugning her perpetual virginity-in ways one would not expect the mother of Jesus to be regarded; when one word is taken out of context, the point of the post ignored, I find it painful because I LOVE MARY! Much more importantly, JESUS LOVES HER! I find it offensive because I was taught that marital relations were private. I find it annoying that the topic at hand is ignored and a tangent introduced. I find it an insult to what is left of my intelligence to find childish graphics, silly remarks, rhetorical questions that stray from the argument introduced to the forum. Posts such as these are not conducive to intelligent discussion and increased understanding of one another in forum.

That's all I choose to say. I'm not trying to convert anyone. My parents didn't impose their Faith on me when I was away from the Church. I wouldn't do that to someone else. God gives us a free will, and I choose Catholicism. That doesn't mean I'm not open to listening to other people's discussion of their faiths; it never had in my personal life. There does, however, need to be mutual respect for that to happen.

As always, Elsie, may God bless you, and give you His Peace!

[Elsie]

I would so much rather you insulted me, than to speak of her as you do.

What have I said that was UNTRUE?

[Elsie]

In posting, plain, not crude, language stating one's opinion in a considerate manner would be appropriate.

What is CRUDE?

[Elsie]

I'm not trying to convert anyone.

Then you are surely wasting your time.

Go to catholic caucus threads and high five each other all day long.

[Elsie]

There does, however, need to be mutual respect for that to happen.

Ask Stormy if his chosen religion 'respects' you.

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  "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent"

 

 (The Seer, p. 255  Orson Pratt )