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To: grania
Within any college, there's due process to expel a student or an organization.

The university didn't expel SAE. There was no SAE chapter to expel; the national organization revoke the chapter's charter. All OU did was take their property back in the form of the frat house.

21 posted on 03/13/2015 5:38:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Who expelled the students?


23 posted on 03/13/2015 5:46:02 AM PDT by Ray54
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To: DoodleDawg
All OU did was take their property back in the form of the frat house.

All??? Oklahoma must have laws about the process to evict people from their residence, even on property they control. And wouldn't that involve due process?

There's white guilt okay. It's shown in those that overcompensate in their dealings with manufactured black rage.

The more I think of it, the more it stinks. The whole concept of what's "hate speech" and what's "free speech" should be revisited. We (still) have a constitutional right to be tasteless and offensive, as long as it doesn't involve a direct threat. There's a reason for that. It's the only way there can be a free exchange of ideas.

33 posted on 03/13/2015 6:04:53 AM PDT by grania
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To: DoodleDawg
I agree with most of your analysis.

Closing the chapter was not a University action. That decision was made by the SAE national organization. That group was completely justified in doing so.

The expulsion of individual students is another matter. I think those students have a case.

I do not know the specifics of the case with fraternity houses at OU, but at most colleges, the University "owns" fraternity and sorority houses, provided they are on campus... in a sense, Greek Houses are dorms.

The evictions from the house... I'm not sure about how that would be viewed legally. In my experience, the students would have already paid for the housing as part of their tuition bills (on campus housing) and it seems somewhat unfair that a student who may not have even been present during the incident would have his housing stripped from him mid-semester with 24 hour notice.

I'm beginning to think that the University made a calculated decision to take actions they knew would not stand up in Court to protect/inoculate itself for other reasons... like protecting the reputation of the school in recruiting.

I think they probably know they are open to lawsuits, and will simply settle them as they arise.

46 posted on 03/13/2015 6:22:46 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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