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Law schools are in a death spiral. Maybe now they’ll finally change.
Washington Post ^ | 03/10/2015 | Dorothy A. Brown, Professor , Emory University School of Law.

Posted on 03/10/2015 8:08:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

“March madness” holds a different meaning in the legal world. While most of the country looks forward to fast breaks and Cinderella upsets, law schools are bracing themselves for another type of madness: the annual carnage left by the U.S. News & World Report rankings.

This year’s rankings drop on March 10, to be followed by the usual chaos. Deans at highly placed law schools will issue news releases; deans with less fortunate rankings will have their already hectic lives turned upside down.

The lucky ones will get fired. The unlucky ones will have to deal with the fallout. A flood of e-mails. Emergency faculty meetings. Ad Hoc Committees on Law School Progress in U.S. News Rankings. (That is an actual committee.) Adding to the insanity is that all law schools will be the same the day after the ranking as they were the day before. Law schools are in trouble, but not in a way that the U.S. News rankings can signal.

No law school has figured out how to handle the new normal of legal education: the lowest number of applicants in four decades; fewer legal jobs for graduates, and, according to Moody’s, “no relief in sight.”

While some argue that going to law school is still a safe bet, little evidence exists to support this position. The most elite law schools — the top 1 percent — will thrive. The other 99 percent: not so much.

Law schools are currently in a bidding war for the students with the highest LSATs and GPAs because U.S. News heavily emphasizes those factors in its rankings. Students with higher LSATs tend to have a higher socioeconomic status; poorer law students lose out on scholarships and end up paying full tuition, financed through student loans, subsidizing their richer classmates.

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KEYWORDS: college; highereducation; jobmarket; lawschools
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To: SeekAndFind
As the old joke says, a good start.
21 posted on 03/10/2015 8:29:33 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Mears

It is no longer a small town. It has become a bedroom community for the DC area.

When I was growing up there it was a farming community, now it has become somewhat cosmopolitan ... when last I visited, I didn’t even recognize the place.

As for the theaters, they are not the same ones as those of my youth, however, we did, in truth, have three movie houses. Never gave it much thought, but I guess that was a large number for a small town, but our town catered to a very large farming community and was the largest town surrounded by a multitude of smaller communities.

We were the entertainment center for miles around (and the site of the county fair).


22 posted on 03/10/2015 8:38:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: SeekAndFind

May it be Harvard! ;)


23 posted on 03/10/2015 8:56:21 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: doc1019

Your town was the “fun” place,I guess. County fairs and three movies sounds terrific..

I grew up in a Boston neighborhood but after marrying moved to a small city of 85,000....there are only 2 movies there now....the most was 4 in the 40 years I spent there and the population has remained stable.

That’s why your figure surprised me.

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24 posted on 03/10/2015 8:57:52 PM PDT by Mears (To learn, who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."0~~Voltaire))
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To: Mears

85K a small city? If we had 8,000 I would be surprised. LOL!


25 posted on 03/10/2015 9:07:06 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: henkster
I’m your guy.

Hm, so then you're a lawyer?
Could I get your opinion on these constitutional amendment proposals?

26 posted on 03/10/2015 9:12:07 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Elite students can get great jobs. The ones who are having the problems are the dumb ones who should not go to law school and should not be lawyers.

Anyone lending these less capable students money for their tuition should lose their money.


27 posted on 03/10/2015 9:13:26 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: SeekAndFind

28 posted on 03/10/2015 9:13:47 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Maine Mariner

“Lawyers that will actually support and defend the constitution.”
___________

Not much money in that.


29 posted on 03/10/2015 9:17:44 PM PDT by Regal
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To: henkster; Maine Mariner
I’m your guy.

So am I, after I pass the Bar.

30 posted on 03/10/2015 9:18:17 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: SeekAndFind

31 posted on 03/10/2015 9:18:36 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: jsanders2001
Why get a degree when you just need to be a good liar.
32 posted on 03/10/2015 9:22:56 PM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: OneWingedShark

Way too many to comment on at 12:30 a.m. I will say that I don’t like proposed amenments that are specific or tied to specific qunatities and figures. Most of the amendments are needed in tax and revenue. There has to be an exception in those for situations where Congress has declared a State of War exists against a foreign state.


33 posted on 03/10/2015 9:26:26 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: CorporateStepsister
University needs to be treated as an end of high school, not an extension of it.

I think you're wrong; High School needs to be worth something — what's churned out is a disservice to the students, their prospective employers, their society, and the universities themselves.

If I were in charge of the curriculum, calculus would be done by 12; matrices would be 7 & 8.
There would be at least three languages taught: English + two foreign languages. (I'd actually like six, one for each SVO-ordering… but that might be a bit much.)

34 posted on 03/10/2015 9:34:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: henkster
Way too many to comment on at 12:30 a.m.

Take your time.

I will say that I don’t like proposed amenments that are specific or tied to specific qunatities and figures.

Sadly that's about the only way that the debt can be reigned in at this point.

Most of the amendments are needed in tax and revenue.

That's exactly what two of those amendments are on; three if you count limiting the commerce clause.

35 posted on 03/10/2015 9:37:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: blueunicorn6
funny, but true..some are worth three (3) flushes. 💩💩💩
36 posted on 03/10/2015 9:53:06 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass ("Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid." Hedy Lamarr)
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To: jcon40
not making fun of plumbers, they provide a valuable service/trade..
some lawyers (Congress/White Mosque) not so much.

37 posted on 03/10/2015 10:03:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass ("Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid." Hedy Lamarr)
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To: SeekAndFind

People trained to lie, develop lies, cover up lies with better lies, hide the truth, near truth, and barely the truth..

Argue both sides of any subject.. make delusions seem real, distract from reality with distractions from fact..

AND the better they are at it.... the more they are paid..

you know, lawyers.. and the best job for many of them is POLITICS..
Why?... almost all politicians are lawyers...

Jeese!... WHAT COULD GO WRONG?..


38 posted on 03/10/2015 10:04:35 PM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: skinkinthegrass
not making fun of plumbers, they provide a valuable service/trade..

A world without plumbers would be a dire place.
39 posted on 03/10/2015 10:11:52 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: SeekAndFind

Just wait until Conservatives actually come to power and “LOSER PAYS” becomes law. Then that advertisement verbiage we’re bombarded by (’GET THE COMPENSATION YOU DESERVE’) daily in TV commercials will apply to lawyers themselves and they will have SUBSTANTIALLY LESS INCOME THAN THEY RECEIVE NOW. It will be a major gain for the truly productive members of our country.


40 posted on 03/10/2015 10:22:30 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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