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To: rockrr
I'm not sure where you get the nonsense that it WAS styled as perpetual. Where in the Constitution does it say perpetual?

The states that remained for several years under the old articles after the rest had left that government (leaving an old government system to create a new one is known as secession) were not in a state of "limbo". They simply remained under the old articles. You are trying to make the two unions seem like they were really one in the same but they cannot be since they coexisted.

55 posted on 03/08/2015 10:04:06 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

“You are trying to make the two unions seem like they were really one in the same but they cannot be since they coexisted.”

The Articles of Confederation of the United States of America and the Constitution of the United States of America both remain in effect as part of U.S. law today.


56 posted on 03/08/2015 10:34:44 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

I’m not sure where you get the nonsense that it WAS styled as perpetual. Where in the Constitution does it say perpetual?

1. Preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union....

2. Constitution of the United States of America, Article. VI:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

3. The Articles of Confederation of the United States of America, Article XIII: Article XIII. Every State shall abide by the determination of the united States in congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a congress of the united States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.


58 posted on 03/08/2015 10:43:28 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
I'm not sure where you get the nonsense that it WAS styled as perpetual.

The Founders, the founding documents, the Supreme Court, and common sense for starters. Do you really seriously believe that they went through all that trouble in order to create a transitory or perishable union? From Texas v. White:

By [the Articles of Confederation], the Union was solemnly declared to "be perpetual." And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained "to form a more perfect Union." It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not?
It should be self-evident.
59 posted on 03/08/2015 11:44:13 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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