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1 posted on 03/06/2015 10:43:41 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Iran has, or is about to acquire dozens (at most) of nuclear (”A-Bomb”) weapons. Israel possesses hundreds if not thousands of both nuclear and thermonuclear (”H-Bomb”) weapons which can be delivered by aircraft, artillery, missiles, and cruise missiles on hard-to-detect submarines. Who would you bet on?


2 posted on 03/06/2015 10:47:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

I’m learning smoke signals for the post EMP world.


4 posted on 03/06/2015 10:50:48 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Ooh-Ah

the most fateful government dereliction of duty in history.

That would be Obama for those of you in Rio Linda.


6 posted on 03/06/2015 10:52:02 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

A first nuclear war is coming soon unless the USA can kick out its Moslem rulers and then, in conjunctioin with Israel launch an attack on Iran that destroys its entire military capability including all the nuke stuff we can get at. We don’t have to destroy it all, just destroy the military and the economic capability to continue. That means all the factories, dams, railroads, airports, etc, and rewaste them as rebuilding starts. Or, if we can’t get up the gumption to do that, then a pre-emptive nuclear strike will become necessary unless there is some perfect anti ICBM capability in Israel and the USA that is still super secret which is not likely. That strike will become necessary if the USA has not already collapsed into total dictatorship. Then nothing matters any more; China is the next center of Christian civilization.


11 posted on 03/06/2015 11:04:42 AM PST by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Ooh-Ah
IF Iran gets a nuke...and IF they decide to nuke Israel as they've threatened, I just hope it is after Obama is gone and a conservative president is in office. Otherwise, Iran skates with nothing but a rebuke, censure and other strongly worded resolutions.

If they act on their threats, they should be nuked back to the Stone Age by Israel AND the US.

We all know that sock puppet Obama and president Jarrett will do nothing. Except smile, that is.

18 posted on 03/06/2015 11:19:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Sorry, totally unimpressed. If we can tolerate bombs in Russia, China, and many in the rest of the world, we are not threatened by someone who potentially will have a bomb. I’m more interested in why they might use a bomb and see what can be done about that. Otherwise it is but the voice of the perpetual warmonger unable to grasp the reaction of the rest of the world. War is an existential threat to us.


19 posted on 03/06/2015 11:24:02 AM PST by ex-snook (God forgives because God is Love)
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To: Ooh-Ah

When Iran goes nuclear ,watch where Obama and friends go ,that should be the Safe Area


21 posted on 03/06/2015 11:40:14 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Ooh-Ah
See interview:
Woolsey: Threat to electric grid 'keeps me awake at night'
AND, FR responses :
Woolsey: Threat to electric grid 'keeps me awake at night

23 posted on 03/06/2015 11:44:09 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

Dear Leader Kim Jong-ung: Your father was a monkey, and your mother was a sow. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.


24 posted on 03/06/2015 11:53:01 AM PST by matthew fuller (The ONLY Democrat candidate is a felony flawed candidate!)
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To: Ooh-Ah
The radical clerics are in control of government in Iran. When they have nukes, they'll decide what to do with them and do it. Other Iranians have no say in the matter.

It's not only Israel's concern. It's also a concern for the U.S.A., but the trade interests and government employee factions struggling over portions of revenues don't care about what happens to the rest of us any time after today. They'll take any money any way they can get it without any regard for what is needed for defense.

Lawmaker: Iran's Revolutionary Guard Practicing for An EMP Attack on the United States
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2806848/posts

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/1984/ERD.htm
EMP
Submitted To
Mr. Wiggins
In Partial Fulfillment of Requirements
for Written Communications
The Marine Corps Command and Staff College
Quantico, Virginia
Major R. D. Erick
United States Marine Corps
April 6, 1984

Excerpt:
“However, the effects produced by a nuclear explosion were not fully realized until the “Johnston Island Test” in 1962. This nuclear blast had a yield of 1.4 megatons at an altitude of 250 miles. The explosion damaged a number of low earth orbit satellites and caused malfunctions and early failure of others. Another effect that was noted during the blast was a blackout up to 600 miles away of high frequency radio communications that lasted for hours. It was caused by disruption of the ionosphere. It also popped circuit breakers, street lights went out, burglar alarms rang, and power lines went down in Honolulu, about 800 miles away. In Nov. 1962, all above ground testing was halted and our testing and analysis was limited to underground testing, analysis of the existing atmospheric test data, nonnuclear simulation, and theoretical calculations.”

Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S. (12/09/10)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2640111/posts

‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela (17 May 2011)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2721122/posts

Iran readies launch of new satellite
(Iran's second satellite launch, 11/09/2009
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382720/posts

Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA
09/08/01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/519198/posts

Iran military engineers on hand for N. Korea missile launch
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664760/posts
(7/12/06)

10 Iranian Missile Engineers Visited N. Korea:Sankei reports(check on NK’s Chinese equipments)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658850/posts
(07/01/06)

S. Korea, U.S. verifying reports on test of new N.K. missile in Iran: source
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834307/posts
(4,000 kilometer range—will reach the Vatican—May 16th, 2007)

US confirms Iran launch of first home-built satellite
afp ^ | 2-03-09 | staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2177582/posts

Iran Satellite Launch Heightens Missile Development Concerns
By Donna Miles
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Feb. 3, 2009
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52939

Iran hails successful launch of satellite rocket
Posted on Wed 03 Feb 2010 02:51:50 AM MST
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2443266/posts


30 posted on 03/06/2015 12:57:27 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Iran can now build and deliver nukes, US intel reports
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3117966/posts

Iran Vows Revenge Against Israel, US and UK
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2833320/posts

Can we stop them? Yes, we can!

Meet the MOP: The Massive Ordnance Penetrator
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2361839/posts

The Massive Ordnance Penetrator Will Be the Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb Ever
Popular Science ^ | August 3, 2009 | Dan Smith
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2343538/posts
“The Massive Ordnance Penetrator, or MOP, is a 30,000-pound bomb that would dive deeper than any previous bomb, and could be strapped to B-2 or B-52 bombers by July of 2010.
The MOP is 20 feet long and can penetrate bunkers up to 200 feet before exploding. At 15 tons, the MOP is a third heavier than the previous “mother of all bombs”,...”

Massive Ordnance Penetrator Fit To B-2 Would Speed To Next Year If Congress Agrees
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306426/posts Pentagon Receives Massive Bunker-Busting Bombs, Denies Targeting Iran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2808716/posts

Notice of Contract Action-B-2 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) GBU-57A/B
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2269320/posts

But some of the most influential Republican and Democrat political factions--who want increases in funding for their own salaries--would rather see us all dead than see funding going to needed defense.


31 posted on 03/06/2015 1:16:41 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

When we had air raid drills, there were no kindergartens in public elementary schools. Public elementary schools started with the first grade. Kindergartens were private. Many of them were conducted in churches.

Civilian air raid drills were held in cities with or near large military installations and other cities with responsible American Civil Defense leaders. I lived in a city near a large military installation. The drills were monthly.

The drills were something much more interesting to do than usual school activities. We got under our desks for the very short time that the sirens sounded with our hands clasped behind our necks. We weren’t scared at all. We were like the movie heroes. :-)

We were brave American children in the southern states of yesteryear. The drills showed that our parents cared. Later, I was a student in the Civil Defense Medical Self-Help course in high school. It was old material even then, but it was great material.

Today’s political/regulator blob, as it’s oozed down from the northeast, hopped onto the west coast and slid eastward again over the past 40 years or so, not long descended from Europe, cares only about stuffing our American dollars into its accounts by hook or crook. It loves its old European countries more than the U.S.A. It has pushed us out of jobs with its prostitution, false accusations and institutional/license obsessions for 40 years. It has taken over both political parties and is continuing to shut down our defense.


32 posted on 03/06/2015 1:49:56 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Special political interests have been lying to us about the effects of nuclear weapons. Nuclear war is much more survivable than presented in their false scenarios! Have a look at the effects of one of the most powerful warheads--warheads that will not be used, because much smaller yields are much more practical (costs, delivery, concealment, lack of extra effects with higher yields, etc.).

http://glasstone.blogspot.com/2009/11/groupthink-and-proliferation-why.html
Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians
Can Britain and America prevail over an alliance of Russia, China, Iran and North Korea in WWIII? American sanctions on Japan in 1940 led to Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941, so beware of the lessons of history Mr President, and get civil defense Wednesday, November 18, 2009 Evidence that inaccurate statements about weapons effects have historically caused increased threats to national security, instead of reducing them

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EFFECTS OF THE EXPLOSION OF A THERMO-NUCLEAR BOMB


33 posted on 03/06/2015 1:51:05 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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