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1 posted on 03/04/2015 11:15:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Roberts and Alito are RINGERS that George Bush Jr. INSTALLED to further his familys ONE WORLD GIVERNMENT treasonous agenda..

The whole family are One Worlders.. always have been..
So is Barry Soetero... the Clintoons.. and K Street..


2 posted on 03/04/2015 11:21:00 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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"Verrilli said its action would have to be consistent with an accurate reading of the law."

And just how do you do that if it's completely ambiguous? An "accurate reading" becomes whatever some bureaucrat says it is.

3 posted on 03/04/2015 11:22:00 AM PST by circlecity
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There is nothing ambiguous about it. It plainly says State Exchanges are the ones that can provide the subsidies. And Gruber’s videotapes plainly reveal that that was their intent.


5 posted on 03/04/2015 11:24:22 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Islamists are excused from their crimes because of The Crusades. Moral equivalence in action.)
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SCOTUS: Is it ambiguous?
Verrilli: No, it's clear.
SCOTUS: If the Court determines it is ambiguous, who decides the meaning?
Verrilli: Well then the Agency deserves deference.
Roberts: So, a new Cruz administration agency would get deference to change the decision?
Verrilli: No, only a democRAT administration can make an accurate reading of the law...
6 posted on 03/04/2015 11:25:32 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Nothing much here. The Supreme Court has junked the Constitution for years and will continue.


7 posted on 03/04/2015 11:27:50 AM PST by Logical me
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9 posted on 03/04/2015 11:28:14 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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Roberts: “I’ll cook up another convoluted pretzel to which no other Justice will sign”.


10 posted on 03/04/2015 11:28:51 AM PST by Paladin2
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When a law is ambiguous, the court often defers to the agency in charge of administering it.

That is why we get creeping totalitarianism through bureaucratic overreach. The government was created to defend our liberty, not to destroy it. If the CJ of SCOTUS doesn't see the court's role as one of restraining the federal leviathan's encroachments on liberty then we are lost.

16 posted on 03/04/2015 11:42:28 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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This will not end well.

First, I do not think Roberts will vote to gut Obamacare after the lengths he went to last time to rewrite the whole thing as just one big tax bill. From oral arguments this morning, it appears that Kennedy will also flip this time. So it is extremely likely that the Court will rewrite Obamacare to extend the subsidies by either a 5/4 or 6/3 vote.

In the unlikely event that the Court actually follows the law and throws out the subsidies then we will have a replay of the amnesty budget debacle.

The Democrats and the lamestream media will loudly blame the evil Republicans for stealing subsidies and insurance from millions of poor people who are now relying on it. The House will respond by passing a bill extending subsidies for this year and then terminating or scaling back Obamacare. The Democrats in the Senate will insist on a “clean” bill just extending the subsidies.

The Republicans will then cave and that will be that.


18 posted on 03/04/2015 11:48:50 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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A law is where a rule or rules state a prescribed course of action which are required to be undertaken. Whenever the statement of a prescribed course of action is too ambiguous to reliably prescribe the course of action, by definition there can be no reliable or customary prescription, rule or law.


19 posted on 03/04/2015 11:49:06 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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Ambiguous: Clear language that does not mean what a liberal wants it to mean.

Clear: Ambiguous language as defined by a liberal.

Get it?


25 posted on 03/04/2015 12:04:53 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal or a rose by any other name...)
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If it was up to the agency to decide, he asked Verrilli, could a new administration change the decision?

Roberts preparing to punt.

Blackmailed bastard he is!

30 posted on 03/04/2015 12:14:17 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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Obamacare was worded in a very purposeful way TO BRIBE STATES INTO SETTING UP EXCHANGES. Well, now the WH is saying the wording is not what they really meant..

How come the WH is NEVER held to account for their dirty tricks? WAKE UP, SCROTUS.

31 posted on 03/04/2015 12:16:16 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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We are so screwed by this so-called Court. Notice the defense of the Constitution has been completely discarded.
34 posted on 03/04/2015 12:20:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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It sounds as though the Obama administration's attorney is arguing that despite what the law actually says, the correct interpretation in the case of ambiguity is whatever allows the beast to exist. I'm no attorney so I wonder, is that a valid argument?
38 posted on 03/04/2015 12:30:14 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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They are not laws now. They are “concepts”.


42 posted on 03/04/2015 12:40:37 PM PST by headstamp 2
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Deciding in favor of Obama would let all future Congresses off the hook for more and more wordsmithing shenanigans. I wonder if the USSC is noting that, if nothing else. They are just fencing themselves in as garbage collectors.


49 posted on 03/04/2015 1:33:00 PM PST by SteveH
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I know I am a lowly self-educated (post-indoctrination center [aka ‘school’]) serf but, what happened to void for vagueness?

Only gov’t could think that making an incomprehensible Law would allow the SAME gov’t to dictate exactly what ‘they meant’ instead of what was PASSED.

It’s a damn shame the lawyer didn’t smack down the Leftist judges when they started spouting off ‘the words written, in plain English, don’t mean what they say’


66 posted on 03/05/2015 10:29:00 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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IOW, the Dhimmicraps cna change it any way they want, but Republicans had better not change it back.


68 posted on 03/07/2015 9:41:58 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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