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That was then, this is now: Walker suddenly a hard-liner on abortion as he vaults to front-runner
The London Daily Mail ^ | February 23, 2015 | David Martosko, US Political Editor

Posted on 02/23/2015 8:29:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

* In October the Wisconsin governor pledged to support legislation focused on 'safety' during abortions
* 'The bill leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor,' he said in a campaign ad
* This month he's telling potential donors that he supports a 'personhood' amendment, which insists that life begins at conception
* He boasted in January that he had 'defunded Planned Parenthood,' America's wealthiest and most politically savvy chain of abortion clinics
* Walker is busy beefing up his conservative bona fides in advance of a brusiing GOP presidential primary that may not favor blue-state moderates

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is learning that major leagues pitchers throw harder than in the minors, as journalists are piling on the newly minted Republican front-runner – first with gotcha questions and now with questions about an abortion flip-flop over a period of just four months.

The New York Times highlighted on Monday a campaign ad Walker made in October as he fought through a tough re-election contest.

'I'm pro-life,' he says in the video, but Walker also announced his support for 'legislation to increase safety, and to provide more information to a woman considering her options. The bill leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor.'(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; plannedparenthood; prochoice; prolife; scottwalker; walker; wisconsin
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To: CurlyDave

Yeah, our problem is definitely that we have way too many politicians who are “stuck on principle.” You betcha.

/s


101 posted on 02/24/2015 8:58:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (CAN-DO-USA.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
B T T T ! ! ! ©

102 posted on 02/24/2015 9:00:24 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: EternalVigilance
RE:”If legislation violates the Constitution I have no idea why there would be any further discussion about it among actual conservatives. The debate should be over.”

I find it hard to believe they are allowing you to post this fantasy stuff from jail for acting as if all those laws you don't agree with don't exist. publicly defying them

Ideally don't murderers of babies call for the death penalty??? How about God?

You cant be living the claimed expectations you say and still be free.

Freedom to fight comes from surviving, not death, and you seem to be free.
Except in la-la land,

103 posted on 02/24/2015 9:02:02 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

A totally incoherent response.


104 posted on 02/24/2015 9:09:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Fire 'em all.)
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To: sickoflibs; 2ndDivisionVet; EternalVigilance; Jonty30; terycarl; Awgie; Colonel_Flagg
Yea, he's a real Braveheart.

Scott Walker to tea partiers: Let’s focus on taking out Democrats, not our fellow Republicans

Scott Walker: Gay Marriage Fight Is 'Over In Wisconsin'

Walker Says Legislature Shouldn't Focus On Right-To-Work Bill Next Session
105 posted on 02/24/2015 9:10:40 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: sickoflibs

Among the first principles of this republic, a republic of laws and not men, is that any law that violates the laws of nature and nature’s God, and/or the Constitution, are null and void.

Do you think you’re smarter than Cicero, or Aquinas, or Blackstone, or Hamilton?


106 posted on 02/24/2015 9:14:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Fire 'em all.)
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To: Darren McCarty
Reagan SIGNED a bill legalizing abortion. The real Reagan wasn't as conservative as the hype.

He was a good president, but he isn't God.



Yes he did sign an abortion bill, and as all great men of conscience do, once he realized the mistake he had made he was a vigilant and tireless warrior against abortion from that time forward.

And you couldn't be more wrong about Reagan not being as conservative as the hype. I know you want that to be true, but it simply is false.

The problem with Scott Walker is that he is now exhibiting a pattern (abortion, Illegal Immigration, Right-To-Work, etc.) of taking positions dependent on which direction his Political Winds are blowing. Sometimes for a particular position on a policy position and then shifting to the opposite.

s president, Ronald Reagan was an unflagging champion of unborn human life. “Today there is a wound in our national conscience,” Reagan told a joint session of Congress in his 1986 State of the Union. “America will never be whole as long as the right to life granted by our Creator is denied to the unborn.”

But honest discussions of Reagan’s record on the abortion issue admit that as California governor he signed into law a liberalization of abortion that led to an explosion of abortions in the nation’s largest state. Reagan critics and supporters alike recognize this fact — one that is particularly tough to swallow for staunch pro-lifers. The full story, however, is more complicated — and worth setting straight now, 35 years after Roe v. Wade.

On June 14, 1967, Ronald Reagan signed the Therapeutic Abortion Act, after only six months as California governor. From a total of 518 legal abortions in California in 1967, the number of abortions would soar to an annual average of 100,000 in the remaining years of Reagan’s two terms — more abortions than in any U.S. state prior to the advent of Roe v. Wade. Reagan’s signing of the abortion bill was an ironic beginning for a man often seen as the modern father of the pro-life movement. How did this happen?

When the issue surfaced in the first months of his governorship, Reagan was unsure how to react. Surprising as it may seem today, in 1967 abortion was not the great public issue that it is today. Reagan later admitted that abortion had been “a subject I’d never given much thought to.” Moreover, his aides were divided on the question.

Reagan began to vigorously study the issue and the Therapeutic Abortion Act. He asked his longtime adviser and Cabinet secretary Bill Clark — a devout Catholic who had contemplated the priesthood — for counsel. “Bill, I’ve got to know more — theologically, philosophically, medically,” Reagan confided. Clark loaded up the governor with a box of reading materials, which he took home and read in semi-seclusion. Edmund Morris later said that, by the time the Therapeutic Abortion Act reached his desk, “Reagan was quoting Saint Thomas Aquinas.” Years later, Reagan remarked that he did “more studying and soul searching” on the issue than any other as governor.

Nonetheless, he signed the bill. Reagan and his staff calculated that if he vetoed the bill, his veto would be overridden by the state legislature. Therefore, he decided to do what he could to make the bill less harmful, arguing for the insertion of certain language that eliminated its worst features and allowed for abortion only in rare cases — such as rape or incest, or where pregnancy would gravely impair the physical or mental health of the mother.

The Therapeutic Abortion Act became law. And as would happen with nearly every abortion law in the years ahead, the mental-health provision was abused by patient and doctor alike. Reagan biographer Lou Cannon notes that even the bill’s Democratic sponsor confessed to being surprised that physicians so liberally interpreted the law.

Reagan was shocked at the unintended consequences of his action. Morris said Reagan was left with an “undefinable sense of guilt” after watching abortions skyrocket. Cannon claims this was “the only time as governor or president that Reagan acknowledged a mistake on major legislation.” Clark called the incident “perhaps Reagan’s greatest disappointment in public life.”

For Reagan, one good thing did come out of this disappointment. As Georgetown’s Matt Sitman notes, “It is impossible to understand his later staunchly pro-life positions without grasping the lessons he learned from this early political battle.” Reagan, says Sitman, survived the ordeal with a “profoundly intellectual understanding of the abortion issue…. It was in 1967 that his ideas concerning the beginning of human life were fully formed.” He now had a cogent understanding, politically and morally, of abortion and its implications.

Reagan would later denounce abortion so strongly and so frequently from the Oval Office that Bill Clark has compiled a 45-page document of Reagan’s quotes on abortion, collected from the official Presidential Papers. Reagan even authored a small book — Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation, featuring contributions from Bill Clark, Malcolm Muggeridge, and Mother Teresa — that was published by the Human Life Foundation in 1984. White House moderates wanted Reagan to delay publication until after the 1984 election, fearing it would turn off pro-choice Republicans, but Reagan refused. He would not be burned again on abortion. No more compromises.

Ronald Reagan emerged from 1967 repentant, but ready for future battles. The damage was done; of course, the results were nothing compared to the travesty that a group of men in black robes in Washington were planning six years later.

107 posted on 02/24/2015 9:19:49 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; 2ndDivisionVet; EternalVigilance; Jonty30; terycarl; Awgie; Colonel_Flagg; Impy; ...
RE:”Yea, he's a real Braveheart.:

Great, we can end on agreement

Walker shows how to lead photo walker braveheart3_zpscwfbhjm7.jpg

108 posted on 02/24/2015 9:20:02 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs
Great, we can end on agreement

No, we can end on the truth.

If Scott Walker had been alive at that time, he'd be more like the Scottish royalty that sold out Braveheart.

He's a pragmatist, not a principled conservative leader.
109 posted on 02/24/2015 9:21:43 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
RE:”He's a pragmatist, not a principled conservative leader. “

He's a get resulter, not just another whiner who blames others for their failures,

110 posted on 02/24/2015 9:26:40 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...Sally Minivan Soccer Mom and Mike the Mewling Metrosexual...”

Spot-on imagery...


111 posted on 02/25/2015 5:00:51 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs
He's a get resulter, not just another whiner who blames others for their failures,

Yeah? but which way will Scott "The Weather Vane" Walker turn next?

What happens if he becomes POTUS, and he is handed polls that show the country WANTS abortion?

Will he then pivot like he has on Right to Work, Gay Marriage, the Tea Party, and Abortion and then SUPPORT Abortion?

How can you be sure what his positions will be?

There does not seem to be much stability there.
112 posted on 02/25/2015 7:29:57 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: sickoflibs

NICE Pic!!!

haha!!!


113 posted on 02/25/2015 7:30:12 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So tell me, which position has the effect of actually saving more lives: supporting a bill that adds more restrictions to the ability to get abortions, is able to be passed, and can withstand SCOTUS? Or taking an absolutist postion, opposing any bill that does not outright ban all abortions, and allowing the slaughter to continue unchecked?


114 posted on 02/25/2015 7:33:52 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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