Posted on 02/22/2015 7:30:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson
The Supreme Court this June could cut off millions of Americans from affordable Obamacare coverage. The response from the nation’s governors gathering in Washington this week was an assortment of shrugs.
POLITICO interviewed more than a dozen governors, from both parties, this weekend at the National Governors Association winter meeting. Most said they’re in a wait-and-see zone. The Supreme Court will hear arguments next week, the decision is likely in late June and no one can foretell how the court will rule on its second major case that could strike at the heart of the president’s signature health law.
For some Republican governors it was a shrug of indifference. They say the onus falls on President Barack Obama and Congress to figure out what to do if the Supreme Court invalidates Affordable Care Act subsidies in their states. And if Obamacare falls apart, well, they say, good riddance.
For others — among them potential 2016 contenders Scott Walker of Wisconsin and John Kasich of Ohio — it’s a shrug of uncertainty. Wisconsin’s own state health program for certain low-income people relies on the federal exchange, and Walker called for the feds to come up with at least a short-term fix. Kasich says he’s working on contingency plans to protect people in his state, but he hasn’t said what that would look like, or how he’d pay for it.
The Obamacare opponents behind King argue that subsidies are illegal in 34 states using HealthCare.gov instead of running their own insurance exchanges. A ruling against the White House could abruptly halt financial assistance to roughly seven million of the people who signed up through the federal exchange this year.
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“Then my medical insurance is back to normal hopefully .....”
Not likely. You still have to have at least a bronze plan. The cost of a bronze plan is still going to be mondo high in either premiums or deductibles or both.
Nice thought...but...
If SOTUS continues as it has in simply overruling the people and their original ideas of liberty then things will change and not for the better unfortunately. The Supreme Court was suppose to support the Constitution, not cave to Politicians.
Justice seems to be changing these days and the rule of law is at risk. When the President and the Chief Justice of the US makes their own laws and not the Congress, America has changed. We have yet to see the outcome of this but it just might be delayed justice. We shall see... It is happening now...
While this nation has been based on the law, we can not allow a run away Presidential action along with the judiciary to do things as they please. This means that they can not admen the law to only support what they want to support nor ignore what they wish to ignore! When that happens, laws are only adhered to during that Presidency!
That is called a Dictatorship in most countries and although strange to us in the United States, has been happening here.
The reality is health care costs have zero relationship to the average family's ability to pay. Technology will be the only way out of this mess.
If the Supremes rule that the words of the law matters, then we have two choices: (1) Congress can watch Obamacare die a richly deserved death, and freedom will be partially restored, or (2) the RINOs in Congress can rescue Obamacare, and it will be time to give up on peacefully protecting our rights and freedoms.
“Then my medical insurance is back to normal hopefully.”
Then I will likely lose my private insurance because I now have an expensive preexisting condition requiring ongoing care. I have paid individual or employer health insurance premiums for over 35 consecutive years but if the old system comes back my insurance company will have the option of dropping my coverage and there is no guarantee any other company will sell me insurance given the care I will require.
The worst thing about the old system was the issue of coverage for preexisting conditions. Here I’m talking about people who worked for years and faithfully paid losing their insurance when a serious medical condition came into play. Examples I’ve seen include cancer patients losing jobs and being unable to work. They paid out of savings into COBRA, after losing jobs, and when COBRA expired they could not buy an individual policy in the market. I’ve known self employed people with private individual plans who would find at renewal their plan was no longer being offered by the company or the company had decided to stop writing individual policies. If the insured had a preexisting condition, good luck finding insurance.
I’m not talking about freeloaders who avoid paying for insurance and then want to be able to buy a gold plan when they develop a serious health issue. I’m talking about millions of productive, hard working people who bought individual policies or paid their share of employer policies for decades and then found themselves without insurance and without the ability to buy insurance with a preexisting condition under the pre-ACA system.
I’m not a fan of government controlled healthcare but I also don’t support a private system that permits those who faithfully pay into the system to be denied insurance when they are forced to change jobs, their insurer arbitrarily stops writing the policy they are buying, or they lose employer insurance because they are unable to work for legitimate medical reasons.
You don’t lose your auto insurance the first time you have an accident. Under the old health care insurance system you could lose your insurance after a big claim.
Repeal ACA but also address the issues of portability, national market competition, and insurance for preexisting conditions when the patient has paid into the system. I have no faith in the current Congress coming up with anything to address these issues.
FYI: Wisconsin chose NOT to participate in Obamacare by NOT establishing a state exchange. Obamacare is the law of the land...Wisconsin did not deliberately participate in Obamacare for its low-income people.
Doublespeak from Politico.
Paid for by who?
Customers
Little Johnny Roberts is going to rule that the states formed the government; therefore, the states and the federal government are equal. Nation = State, the law stands.
And we all will go back to complaining, then sitting down to watch the next mind-numbing show on TV.
With 50 co-equal presidents we should be able to stop funding the one idiot's operation at 1600 Penn. as superfluous.
Money is the substance of healthcare. That comes from the insurance companies through the premiums paid by the policyholders.
How?
So it's a cash and carry system? Go to the doctor and pay the bill out of pocket? Go to the hospital and be responsible for the whole cost?
Kind of but it isn’t intended for catastrophic care.
Pay a doc $20 per month or whatever and you have access to his office for office visits like check ups, inoculations, stitches etc without insurance companies loading costs on.
BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaha!!!
Does the author also believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Honest Democrats?
Something has to be making up the difference between the $20 copay and what it cost the doctor.
LOL is right.
Tennessee has Tenncare forerunner of Romneycare and 0’care.
My alcholic bro drank himself in to malnutrition. 17 days in LeConte Hospital near Pigeon Forge, TN.
He has no health ins. no job, no money and lived in a RV in my sister’s backyard. My sister works 2 jobs, has Scoliosis, her husband has MD. They live on the side of a small mountain with steep stairs that can’t support a wheelchair ramp for him.
LeConte failed to call in the Mobile Crisis Unit when they deemed my brother as a total invalid. The sent him to my sister’s house via ambulance with 2 big men to haul a 200 lb 57 yr old man up those steep stairs in a wheelchair, which they took back and left a walker for him. They dumped him on her loveseat. No potty, no diapers, no puddle pads. She had to go get the potty.
My sister REPEATEDLY told LeConte she could NOT take care of a INVALID due to her Scoliosis and 2 jobs and her husband’s MD.
She has NO POWER OF ATTORNEY, nor does she want one. Choices keeps demanding she supply things that are NOT available to any one with out a Power Of Attorney.
Choices called my sister Carol Friday and told her SHE now has to get our Invalid brother Frank who is sleeping on the floor in front of her loveseat, Where if he cannot get up with the walker he uses the RR on her floor, to a doctor’s appointment so a doctor can commit him to a care facility. This follows a long list of demands Choices has been making Carol has NO authority to perform or way to do it.
It will require a Ambulance there and back plus 2 large men to haul a 200 lb man down steep stairs. Then the doctor bill to boot. They do not have the financial means to do this.
This is Choices responsibility.
Choices always has a new request that Carol has NO POWER OF ATTORNEY to take care of. Frank is 57 and of sound mind. He is his OWN responsibility. Not my sister’s.
His domicile is NOT her home but a RV in her back yard. Carol kept telling LeConte hospital she could not handle an Invalid. They Failed to call in the Mobile Crisis Unit when he was in the hospital for 17 days, before just calling her home from work and dumping him with a walker on her loveseat via ambulance and 2 large men.. She had to go to the hospital to fetch the potty, they provided, NO Diapers or Pads to protect her loveseat. She used the last of the Frank’s available cash to purchase him some street clothes and PJ’’s and buy his medications.
It is NOT Carol’s responsibility to locate his Birth Certificate, he doesn’t even know where it is. She can’t get his IRS statements, she has no authority to do so.
Since this weather hit the area, she and Mike have been stuck at the Guest Lodge they work at, the only one home besides Frank is their son Justin who is barely an adult, who is not able to lift Frank, He is not old enough to be responsible for a 57 year old invalid man. He is old enough to take care of himself, but not an invalid.
It is past time for Choices to stop playing games and do their job and get Frank in the proper care facility. Her Blood Pressure can’t handle any more of Choices games.
I get info second hand, I am in Atoka she is just outside Pigeon Forge. She is the one to contact. Sevierville, TN
I myself am to sick to even make the trip up there. even if I could I’d be on Meniere’s medication. And I sure can’t take care of him. I do good to take care of me. Doctor had to put me on a Beta Blocker Friday my pulse rate was so high from pain. I am facing double hip replacement. Besides all my other health issues.
Welcome to the world of 0’care. And HIPPA makes it worse.
Try being on Medicare and Tricare Life, where even where you get your daily meds is DOD MANDATED. Procedures are limited, as are drugs and test.
An interesting program and I admit I had never heard of it. So what does it cost a family for the retainer? And what happens if they need to be hospitalized? Is there a similar retainer program for hospitals?
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