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To: Swordmaker

Look I don’t want to get in a shouting match with you.

You are a very informative poster, and I read quite a lot of your posts. Keep them coming and no criticism from here.

However I take issue with you, with Apple and with the majority of American companies anymore, who appear to have put their own profits, ahead of America.

I am not picking on Apple. It is most everyone doing this. What I object to is we have sent American companies to China, but China remains the same.

Communist. Doesn’t allow immigration, except for Chinese people. Doesn’t allow American companies to actually own anything (everything there, to the best of my knowledge, has a majority owner who is Chinese.)

What bothers me, is that Apple is big. And it is going to China, which just became the world’s largest exporter.

Not America. China.

So while I am not looking for an argument, I do not support this.

Bring back jobs, to America.


118 posted on 02/14/2015 11:08:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What bothers me, is that Apple is big. And it is going to China, which just became the world’s largest exporter.

Gosh. If there were only something we could do to encourage business to expand here. In America. Now.

Besides whining, you've got that covered.

120 posted on 02/14/2015 11:15:49 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I am not picking on Apple. It is most everyone doing this. What I object to is we have sent American companies to China, but China remains the same.

In that you are wrong. China is communist in name only. What it is not is democratically elected government. IT is a dictatorship that calls itself communist, but strangely operates with a Capitalist structure. The factories that Apple uses are privately owned by HonHai Precision Industries from Taiwan. As are many others in China. . . The workers are not government drones but people who choose to work at the factories. They are not assigned to work there by the government.

China has changed immensely since the 1950s-1980s model of everything owned by the government and the five-year plans of Chairman Mao. Perhaps it would be better to say it is socialist in some structures and Capitalist in others. Could they nationalize these plants tomorrow. YOU BET THEY COULD. Would they? I doubt it. They are aiming for economic domination. The leaders saw the mistakes the USSR made and they found themselves dependent on the industrial production of Mother Russia. . . and did not like it at all. It made them a satrap of the USSR. It won't happen again. Nor will they let go of power. Perhaps they are Communist leaning toward Fascism. But communist? Not by a long shot. Not anymore.

136 posted on 02/14/2015 12:50:09 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back jobs, to America.

Apple is bringing wha jobs they can back. They tried to make the Sapphire screens here but the company who claimed they could do it flopped. They only got 10% yield of their boules. That was not sufficient. Apple is making their flagship MacPro and iMacs here.

139 posted on 02/14/2015 1:05:13 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What bothers me, is that Apple is big. And it is going to China, which just became the world’s largest exporter.

How do you think it GOT big? It was not big when they were forced by competition to take their manufacturing to Taiwan. What they did NOT do was going the lemming race to the bottom of the barrel by cutting prices in discount hardware. They insisted on always keeping quality high and concentrating on customer service and customer delight in their products.

140 posted on 02/14/2015 1:08:20 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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