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Officer kills 74-year-old man after family called cops to check on him at his home
Daily Mail Online ^ | February 8, 2015 | Anneta Konstantinides

Posted on 02/08/2015 6:51:22 PM PST by Teotwawki

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To: DoughtyOne
"They wanted to check his mental state."

So to check on someones mental state, the state sends a cop with a gun? The dispatcher and cop should be put up on charges for practicing psychiatry without a medical license.

61 posted on 02/08/2015 7:54:41 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

The cop didn’t take it unto himself to enter the home. He was asked by the man’s family to check up on him, which presumably gives him permission to enter the home if nobody answers the doorbell or knocking on the door.


62 posted on 02/08/2015 7:55:09 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30
" He was asked by the man’s family to check up on him, which presumably gives him permission to enter the home if nobody answers the doorbell or knocking on the door."

No, it does not.

63 posted on 02/08/2015 7:58:12 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Teotwawki

There is an Oregon Statute that says that a person is not responsible for their actions for 30 seconds after waking up. I don’t know about the law on this elsewhere.

Perhaps the cop woke up the old man, scared the daylights out of him, and then killed him due to his reaction and reduced cognitive functions.

So much wrong with all of this. At least there was no dead dog as well.


64 posted on 02/08/2015 7:59:09 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Teotwawki

Our next door neighbor, a few years after we had moved away, had this happen. Her husband was suffering from dementia and maybe something else? She called the cops because of his behavior. When he answered the door with the gun in his hand, they shot him. No, they did not try to figure out what his problem was or ask him to put away his gun.

There were no charges brought against the police or anything. It was probably an unnecessary shooting, but what are cops supposed to do if they don’t know the guy or his level of sanity?


65 posted on 02/08/2015 7:59:13 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: blackdog

Yes they can. If the officer was asked to check up on an individual for medical reasons, and there is no answer, the officer consider that medical aid may need to be rendered and enter the home without a warrant.

http://www.cleo.on.ca/en/publications/polpower/what-urgent-situations-can-police-enter-my-home


66 posted on 02/08/2015 8:05:03 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: married21
It was probably an unnecessary shooting, but what are cops supposed to do if they don’t know the guy or his level of sanity?

One thing they can do, is quit thinking that they can kill everything in front of them that poses any conceivable or possible threat in any and all circumstances, in a sort of preventive sweep.

67 posted on 02/08/2015 8:06:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Teotwawki

Next time you call the cops to check on family members, remember to explicitly mention NOT to kill them (or their dogs).

“I’m concerned about grandpa, could you please stop by and kill him?”


68 posted on 02/08/2015 8:07:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ansel12

A willingness to die in the line of duty, as opposed to a willingness to kill in the line of duty.

That would be rather noble, eh? Therefore, I supposed unionized police will not rise to that level.


69 posted on 02/08/2015 8:10:53 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ansel12

If he was having a dementia moment he may not have realized it was a cop, didn’t acknowledge it being a cop, and refused to let the officer retreat.

I tend to wait for more info on stuff like this. It’s entirely possible the officer shot only as a last resort.


70 posted on 02/08/2015 8:11:47 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Jonty30

That’s in Canada. Not so in America.


71 posted on 02/08/2015 8:11:53 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: married21

Sometimes a willingness to take a risk instead of gunning everything in front of you, especially when we are inside of our own homes and not breaking any laws.


72 posted on 02/08/2015 8:12:49 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: upchuck

As others said, you can’t use deadly force to wound.


73 posted on 02/08/2015 8:13:44 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Bogey78O
If he was having a dementia moment he may not have realized it was a cop, didn’t acknowledge it being a cop, and refused to let the officer retreat. I tend to wait for more info on stuff like this. It’s entirely possible the officer shot only as a last resort.

That is why I said that in post 13.

74 posted on 02/08/2015 8:14:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: gaijin
I don’t think you understand just how highly we are trained.

There isn't much evidence of this, really.

75 posted on 02/08/2015 8:18:14 PM PST by GingisK
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To: ansel12
The police are not mental health counselors, marriage counselors, rehab counselors, family coaches, anger management mediators, bed-checkers, dietary managers, or clergy in a pinch.

If you have a loved one with any of the above conditions, please make alternative arrangements for their wellness beyond calling the po-po.

Your loved ones and family are your responsibility, not a 911 dispatcher's and certainly not anyone carrying a gun!

76 posted on 02/08/2015 8:19:39 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: ansel12
One thing they can do, is quit thinking that they can kill everything in front of them that poses any conceivable or possible threat in any and all circumstances, in a sort of preventive sweep.

If they lose that mindset, how are they going to be assured of going home safely each night?

The citizens' safety is always secondary, very obvious these days. Thier safely and collection of pension is paramount. To hell with the peasants, they might impede that quest.

77 posted on 02/08/2015 8:20:28 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: sport

“The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail—its roof may shake—the wind may blow through it—the storm may enter—the rain may enter—but the King of England cannot enter!—all his forces dare not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement!” — William Pitt


78 posted on 02/08/2015 8:23:40 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Teotwawki

Sounds like the man wasn’t doing very good.

Why call the cops???


79 posted on 02/08/2015 8:23:43 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Still Thinking

“To Protect and Serve, And Shoot You Old Codgers To Death If Your Kids Ask Nicely.”
You never see the last part because it won’t all fit on the door of the cruiser.


80 posted on 02/08/2015 8:24:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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