Posted on 02/04/2015 11:01:19 AM PST by Kaslin
This week, controversy broke out over whether state governments have the power to require parents to have their children vaccinated. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, no stranger to compelling his citizens to stay off the roads during blizzards, announced that he had some sympathy for the anti-vaccination position: "I also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well. So that's the balance the government has to decide." Kentucky Senator Rand Paul doubled down on Christie's remarks, stating, "I have heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental orders after vaccines. ...The state doesn't own your children."
Christie and Paul aren't the only politicians sympathizing with anti-vaccination fanatics; in 2008, then-Senator Barack Obama repeated widely debunked claims of links between autism and vaccination. Skepticism of vaccination crosses party lines, unfortunately -- although the most organized anti-vaccination resistance comes from the New Agey left in places like Santa Monica and Marin County, who worry more about infinitesimal amounts of formaldehyde in vaccines than about death by polio.
Unsurprisingly, older Americans believe that children should be vaccinated against diseases like measles, mumps and whopping cough, by a 73 percent to 21 percent margin. Americans 18-29, by contrast, believe by a 43 percent to 42 percent plurality that government should not mandate such vaccinations.
That's because young people don't remember a time when such diseases claimed lives. They don't remember a time when the vast majority of Americans weren't vaccinated. Older people do. Many of them lost loved ones to polio and measles and mumps and rubella. In 1952, over 3,000 Americans died of polio and well over 21,000 were left with mild or severe paralysis. Thanks to Dr. Jonas Salk's vaccine, there have been zero cases of natural polio in the United States since 1979.
The same is true of measles. According to Dr. Mark Papania of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 90 percent of Americans suffered from the measles by age 15 before widespread vaccination beginning in 1962. From 1956 to 1960, he reports, "an average of 542,000 cases were reported annually." That included 450 deaths per year, as well as 150,000 cases of respiratory complications and 4,000 cases of consequent encephalitis per year, many of which resulted in later death. Then mandatory vaccination kicked in. Until a major upswing in 2014, we averaged less than 100 cases of measles per year in the United States since 2000.
The point of mandatory vaccinations is not merely to protect those who are vaccinated. When it comes to measles, mumps and rubella, for example, children cannot be vaccinated until 1 year of age. The only way to prevent them from getting diseases is to ensure that those who surround them do not have those diseases. The same is true for children with diseases like leukemia, as well as pregnant women. Herd immunity is designed to protect third parties.
But Americans have short memories and enormous confidence in junk science. Parents will ignore vaccinations but ensure that their kids are stocked up with the latest homeopathic remedies, Kabbalah bracelets and crystals. St. John's wort, red string and crystals all existed before 1962. They didn't stop the measles. Vaccination did.
That doesn't mean that all vaccinations should be compulsory, of course. There are certain diseases that can only be transmitted by behavior, like HPV. There are others that are too varied for effective herd vaccination, like the flu shot. But when it comes to measles and mumps and rubella and polio, your right to be free of vaccination -- and your right to be a dope with the health of your child because you believe Jenny McCarthy's idiocy -- ends where my child's right to live begins.
ANYONE with a child with a compromised immune system should NOT send them to a public school home school with a tutor if necessary this should be paid for by the state these parents PAY taxes also!!!!!
You are right. Or a private classroom away from other kids. Measles is not the only diseases parents should worry about. Kids carry a lot more bacteria on them than virus.
A father suing the school district to keep his child with leukemia safe from viruses and bacteria is ludicrous THAT’S YOUR job as a PARENT!!!!!! Some people will NEVER give up on the thought that government is the solution to ALL of our everyday problems!!!!!! He lives in CA. after all, with all of the immigrants HERE if it were my kids they would NEVER be in the CA. school system for MANY reasons!!!!!!!
A father suing the school district to keep his child with leukemia safe from viruses and bacteria is ludicrous THAT’S YOUR job as a PARENT!!!!!! Some people will NEVER give up on the thought that government is the solution to ALL of our everyday problems!!!!!! He lives in CA. after all, with all of the immigrants HERE if it were my kids they would NEVER be in the CA. school system for MANY reasons!!!!!!!
vaccinated children or vaccine virus strains pose the same risk of virus mutations as wild viruses the big difference is that while an unvaccinated child may or may not get a specific virus all the vaccinated ones (live virus vaccines- MMR, chicken pox, oral polio,flu etc) have the same potential to contribute to virus mutations and they have.
read this
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm54d1014a1.htm
you can also find articles about measles vaccine virus shading for more then 4 weeks after MMR shot or also search atipical measels
You need to read the article. That is EXACTLY the opposite of what it says.
VDPVs emerge from OPV viruses as a result of 1) their continuous replication in immunodeficient persons (immunodeficiency-associated or iVDPVs) such as the index patient in this investigation or 2) their circulation in populations with low vaccination coverage (circulating or cVDPVs) (1). During community circulation, cVDPVs often recombine with other species C enteroviruses, which is not characteristic for iVDPVs (1). Because polioviruses accumulate nucleotide changes at a constant rate of mutation (approximately 1% per year), the time of replication can be inferred from the degree of divergence (1). Because cVDPVs commonly revert to a wild poliovirus phenotype, they can have increased transmissibility and high risk for paralytic disease; cVDPVs have caused outbreaks of poliomyelitis in several countries (1). VDPVs in highly immunized populations are rare. Before the VDPV identification in Minnesota, the most recent known VDPV excreter in the United States was a child with SCID (now deceased) who developed vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis in 1995 (4).
lets see what low vaccination coverage means
a mix of vaccinated and vaccinated persons on whatever ratio you like
BUT
Unvaccinated ones need to get the VACCINE STRAIN VIRUS (mutated or not) from a vaccinated person as first source of infection .....but according to them only a immunodeficient (”and vaccinated in at least the first case” they don't add that) person propagate the virus mutated or not...
so the entire sentence about low coverage areas is pointless and meaningless unless not only immunodeficient persons can propagate the vaccine virus mutated or not....and in that case the first sentence is useless
that’s the first case the index person is not listed is the one that infected that first immunodeficient patient and she become source for the other 3 or you think vaccine strain viruses are running wild in environment because that’s even worse
This is a little off topic, but not too much. I’m an older guy who is recovering from illness. As a result, I have become enmeshed in the medico-industrial complex. I went from not seeing a doctor for 20 years to having more doctors than I can remember. I’m accumulating doctors faster than a boat accumulates barnacles. In any event, the medicos are pushing a number of vaccines on me. Hepatitis B, pneumonia, to start. I’m not sure what else in the foreseeable future. I’m a 55 year-old guy with now-regular contact with doctors and such. Any opinions on which vaccines I should accept and which I should defer?
I am a senior citizen and when my husband was still in the Service and we went overseas, or back to the states we always had to get our shots updated. I had the measles and the mumps as a child, so I was covered for that. I got the Pneumonia shot a few years ago, but will not require another one because I am over the age of 70. I will be 74 in a few weeks. You on the other hand will probably require more shots.
and yes the source of infection for that first case may had been also an unvaccinated person that is not immunodeficient
But the fact stands, it is a Vaccine strain Virus that it's source is a vaccinated person that infected those children and other regardless if their parents didn't vaccinated them or they are children immunodeficient that cant be vaccinated to begin with
so they can claim that is the vaccine that gave the illness to their immunodeficient child similar with the claims and accusations of unvacinated children infecting immunodeficient children with wild viruses
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