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I want to hear the libertarians here explain this.
1 posted on 02/02/2015 4:46:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Actually according to libertarians that I read, this is exactly how wars should be fought. With snipers taking out top people on the other side and thus threatening the entire top command of the enemy. They call it the Swiss method of war. Fully defensively armed and going after the top command of the enemy.


79 posted on 02/02/2015 7:39:53 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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I couldn't get but two paragraphs before I saw the direction this asshole was headed. Gibberish!!!
80 posted on 02/02/2015 7:40:45 AM PST by ontap
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Sheldon Richmon???? No question where this commie, socialist, Marxist, liberal puke is coming from.


81 posted on 02/02/2015 7:41:03 AM PST by kenmcg
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”Iraq did not invade America or attack Americans”.
He certainly did attack Americans, so much so that the media started to mostly ignore it just like the Clinton administration did. After the first Gulf War Iraq and the US entered into a cease fire agreement. This included continuing sanctions and a "No Fly" zone that would be monitored by coalition air craft. Iraq regularly took shots at these planes, a clear violation of the cease fire agreement and justification of immediate force. Clinton didn't want to mess with it and let it go, which served to embolden our enemy. (Yes I said enemy)

”Dictator Saddam Hussein never even threatened to attack Americans”.
Yes he did, constantly and loudly to anyone that would listen. Not only did he threaten the USA, as afore mentioned, broke the terms of a cease fire agreement and literally attacked US planes.

”Contrary to what the George W. Bush administration suggested, Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001”.
It was actually media scum that did this. Classic straw-man argument.

”Before Americans invaded Iraq, al-Qaeda was not there”.
Yes they were, they were training there along with any number of other terrorist organizations.

”The only reason Kyle went to Iraq was that Bush/Cheney & Co. launched a war of aggression against the Iraqi people”.
”Wars of aggression, let's remember, are illegal under international law”.
As opposed to non-aggressive wars? The very term "war of aggression" is a made up liberal term that has no real meaning and certainly isn't against "international law" whatever that is supposed to be.

”Nazis were executed at Nuremberg for waging wars of aggression”.
No, that is not why they were executed.

”Eastwood's movie also features an Iraqi sniper”.
It was a Syrian sniper who came there specifically to kill the "great Satan" (Americans). That you missed this point only accentuates your ignorance and complete lack of reason on this subject.

”Kyle was a hero because he eagerly and expertly killed whomever the government told him to kill”?
Another point that you missed. He was a hero because of the people he saved, not the people he killed.

”Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School”.
Then you have gone beyond being an unreasonable person with a poor understanding of facts to being bat sh*t insane.

82 posted on 02/02/2015 7:52:28 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Libertarians are scum. Reason Magazine endlessly pimps for Obama’s executive amnesty and open borders


83 posted on 02/02/2015 8:10:04 AM PST by montag813 (ue)
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This illustrates why I left the Libertarian Party after the 9/11 attacks. I still share many of their concerns about the economy and social issues, but as for those who would strike at America: I want them dead! Rhetoric like that shown above can only further marginalize their cause.

I still feel it was right to topple Saddam—he was our puppet and he was running amok. I think we were unprepared for what would happen afterward, and in their usual fashion our “leaders” screwed it up. I cringe at being labeled “war weary.” I’m weary of spineless politicos.

Short of another catastrophic attack, I don’t know what will wake enough of the electorate up to change this disastrous course we have taken. For myself, I intend to support the candidate with the most hawkish foreign policy. Screw free community college... fund the armed forces properly and turn them loose!


84 posted on 02/02/2015 8:22:16 AM PST by Wheelman81
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***Iraq did not invade America or attack Americans.***

USS STARK. 37 US sailors dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_incident


85 posted on 02/02/2015 8:29:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Can someone find and post the Baghdad billboard showing Saddam Hussein gloating over the twin towers burning?


86 posted on 02/02/2015 8:32:00 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I and many others here served in the military to preserve his right to say whatever he wants.

Sorry I did, in this case.


90 posted on 02/02/2015 8:44:08 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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More of (un)Reason’s endless blather!

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91 posted on 02/02/2015 8:47:18 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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libtard tripe..... how quickly they seem to foget there was a bipartisam support for iraq.... UNLIKE OBAMA’S TREASONOUS ACTIONS in libya, syria, ukraine and gitmo....
Supporting groups we are at WAR WITH THE USA.... THE WAR ON TERROR..
al queda, isis, taliban.... ALL FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED BY OBMA THRU SECRET LAUNDERING OF FUNDS VIA QATAR, WEAPONS VIA TURKEY AND OUT RIGHT GIVEAWAYS RELATED TO RETRIEVEING A TRAITOR AND RELASES FROM BITMO...recently he admitted to causing/supporting the civil war in the ukraine...
HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND TRIED FOR TREASON..... how much blood he has on his hands....


101 posted on 02/02/2015 9:57:10 AM PST by zzwhale
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Eastwood's movie also features an Iraqi sniper. Why isn't he regarded as a hero for resisting an invasion of his homeland, like the Americans in my hypothetical example?

Interesting question. Why isn't the sniper who sets up to kill anyone who tries to stop his boss (the man drilling a hole in a child's head to punish the child's father) just as much a hero as the man risking his life to protect the innocent child? Only a liberal would ask that question.

104 posted on 02/02/2015 10:04:21 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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atheists
libertarian
political writer
Jews Left-libertarian anarchists
Jewish anti-Zionism
Jewish atheists
LEFT WING LIBTARD.......
WHAT I WOULD CALL THE COMPLETE BAG OF LEFT WING EXCREMENT


105 posted on 02/02/2015 10:07:09 AM PST by zzwhale
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A great many libertarians are just liberals.

They hate just as much.


110 posted on 02/02/2015 11:05:25 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Wars of aggression, let's remember, are illegal under international law.

That's from UN Resolution 1441, isn't it?

116 posted on 02/02/2015 5:43:03 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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This guy Sheldon represents libertarianism the same way Christie and Romney represent conservatism. Which is to say not at all. There are bad apples in every bushel, and some people leech onto ideological names without believing in their tenants. At our core, every true libertarian believes in minimum government with maximum freedom. My father is a combat veteran, and I have always supported the troops and a strong foreign policy.


124 posted on 02/03/2015 2:07:56 PM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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