[Cronos]

Muslims, historically speaking, have a long history of snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory.

Where do you get that? I always read the opposite historically.

[GladesGuru]

Lepanto, where Mr. Muslim’s fleet met Mr. Cannon.

“The Gates Of Vienna”, a defeat which left a festering sore that led to the selection of teh same day for the Twin Towers attack.

“Entebbe” is another example.

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