[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Illegal or not, this is the bed they made. We should never get into another war until we have a good house cleaning.

Yeah, like the Poles made their bed by not immediately surrendering to the Nazi war machine.

You're not a conservative.

[demshateGod]

Give me a break.

[Cronos]

It's not that simple. Poland had treaties with the UK and France. Take the case today - if Russia invades ANY Baltic state, NATO needs to take action, because of treaties.

Ukraine did not sign up to any treaties. It also wasn't sure about this -- unlike Georgia for instance

Also, due to centuries of Moscow steamrolling over the people of the Ukraine, they have not had a chance to create a sense of nationhood - heck, many just speak Russian