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To: FrankR

Gov’t unions are the worst.

It’s entity A (unions) and entity B (government) “negotiating” how much it’s going to cost entity C (the taxpayer).


4 posted on 01/29/2015 9:35:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

” Gov’t unions are the worst.”

They should be outlawed, because their enemy is the American taxpayer!


7 posted on 01/29/2015 9:40:55 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: MrB

While their membership in the lower employment circles decreases, their power in government unions increases.

I’d rather it be the other way around.


11 posted on 01/29/2015 9:48:29 AM PST by Loud Mime (Rather have Obama as President than a Rino? SMART! /s)
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To: MrB

Indeed. And public employee unions membership has increased. What a racket! They don’t have to worry about the employer losing money so they can demand anything they want.

“All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.” FDR

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=15445


27 posted on 01/29/2015 11:33:09 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: MrB

Government unions are the only growth area. Private unions are still shrinking. That’s why right to work for government employees in Wisconsin drew national attention and $$$.


29 posted on 01/29/2015 11:47:48 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: MrB

I had to in-process into a government job in 2010. At the end of the processing business....the union rep for the organization came in to give a ten-minute speech on the union. Thirty of us in the group. At the end, she hands out the sign-up slips...none were given back to her. Zero new members from my group.

A month goes by and I bring up this topic with a guy who’d worked for the organization for ten years. Roughly 1,500 civilian employees within this agency. As far as he knew....probably less than a hundred who were union members and they were from the 1980s period when hired. No one had interest in the union, and none wanted any “assistance” by the union, or wanted to contribute any funds to the union.

Maybe other gov’t agencies are different. Maybe there’s still some willingness to play into this. But I think it’s a dinosaur presently, and dying off slowly. And I should note this....I quit my government job in the summer of 2013...dissatisfaction was primary reason to leave....they can’t fix problems, accept change, or think outside of the box.


34 posted on 01/30/2015 2:52:45 AM PST by pepsionice
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