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To: trebb
If Jesus welcomed and allowed prostitutes to keep on turning tricks within His ministry then the comment you praised that was associated with this news story would not have been an logical fallacy.

Should the lesbian receive Communion and should the Catholic Church offer the Sacrament of Matrimony to this lesbian couple? That is the meat of this situation.

The elementary business about sinners being welcomed is already dealt with because every believer was that lady before and have been washed cleaned. The debate is whether or not the lady's sins should be accepted and celebrated within the Church. Case in point, I was a fornicator and drug abuser. However when I joined the Church I did not celebrate my acceptance by snorting coke on the pews and fornicating with the nearest hottest female in the Church.
56 posted on 01/27/2015 10:53:28 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
If Jesus welcomed and allowed prostitutes to keep on turning tricks within His ministry then the comment you praised that was associated with this news story would not have been an logical fallacy. Should the lesbian receive Communion and should the Catholic Church offer the Sacrament of Matrimony to this lesbian couple? That is the meat of this situation. The elementary business about sinners being welcomed is already dealt with because every believer was that lady before and have been washed cleaned. The debate is whether or not the lady's sins should be accepted and celebrated within the Church. Case in point, I was a fornicator and drug abuser. However when I joined the Church I did not celebrate my acceptance by snorting coke on the pews and fornicating with the nearest hottest female in the Church.

You are assuming that the Pope told them that their lifestyle was fine and dandy and IAW Catholic doctrine. Unless he did that, your argument is false and the fallacy lies with you. The comment I praised was truth to the point - Jesus hung out with sinners because it wasn't the well that need ministering to..

I started as a Catholic and opted for non-denominational because the Catholics put way too much adoration upon mortal men and women and also seems to think it can pre-judge whether or not someone should be able to commune with God/Jesus. You may be able to stop the "unclean" from participating in your sacraments, but you cannot keep them from doing as Jesus instructed when He said, "When you do this, do it in remembrance of Me".

Just as Jonah tried to stay away from those in Ninevah because he considered them too bad to be saved, you cannot stop God from redeeming those who do not fit into your doctrine/tenets/canons. You would be more in line with His Word and His wishes if you put as much effort into ministry to them than you do in trying to self-righteously condemning them - you don't have that authority - He is the Authority on things you wish you could control.

57 posted on 01/27/2015 1:00:05 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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