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To: Impy
Rubio does qualify. He was born Miami to legal resident parents and was a citizen at birth. Nothing could stop Cruz from running either, he was born a citizen just like Rubio, just like Jindal, all 3 of them, period. That is all natural born means, there is no extra special definition, no there’s not, I don’t care what you heard on some blog or from some radio host.

Actually, the U. S. Constitution itself says you are wrong. Here is the actual quote from the Constitution:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President

If natural born citizen is equal to citizen, then the phrase "or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution" would have been unnecessary. The Founders, who were wiser than you, intentionally added it for clarification, to make it clear that the two terms are not the same.

127 posted on 02/02/2015 3:35:54 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: savedbygrace; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

WTF are you talking about, that was put in there for people born in other colonies and Britain and who were active Americans at time, like Alexander Hamilton (born in the Caribbean). It has zero relevance to anyone alive today.


128 posted on 02/02/2015 3:40:52 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Do you have any idea what this poster is talking about?


133 posted on 02/02/2015 7:15:14 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: savedbygrace

Since the adoption of the 14th Amendment in 1865, and specifically the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, the courts have consistently ruled that there are two, and only two forms of U.S. citizenship, born citizenship and naturalized citizenship. Born citizens can become president, naturalized citizens cannot become president. Its really that simple.
For example: The Supreme Court’s ruling in Elk v Wilkins, 112 U. S. 94 (1884)
“The distinction between citizenship by birth and citizenship by naturalization is clearly marked in the provisions of the constitution, by which ‘no person, except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president;’ and ‘the congress shall have power to establish an uniform rule of naturalization.’Const. art. 2, § 1; art. 1, § 8.”

“This section [of the 14th Amendment] contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are ‘all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.’”


134 posted on 02/02/2015 8:22:26 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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