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Ravens believe footballs may have been underinflated in game vs. Patriots
The Boston Globe ^ | JANUARY 21, 2015 | Matt Pepin

Posted on 01/21/2015 12:37:25 PM PST by ez

In the wake of the news that the Patriots used underinflated footballs in the AFC Championship, several stories have emerged of other instances of footballs being modified or suspected of being altered during NFL games.

According to CBS Sports, some members of the Baltimore Ravens believe kicking balls used in their playoff game against the Patriots in the divisional round may have been underinflated. No players or Ravens personnel are identified in the CBS report, which also says the NFL did not receive a complaint from the Ravens regarding the footballs in that game.

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; nonamer

Didn’t know that but in thinking about that, doesn’t that seem like a goofy rule? I mean in baseball, MLB/umpires provide the baseballs during the game. I don’t see a good reason for a rule like that which potentially allows stuff like this to happen.


41 posted on 01/21/2015 12:56:38 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: freefdny
The Colt balls were not deflated only the Pats

How does anyone know that? Has the NFL done testing on all the balls the Colts used? If not, why not? All I've read is that 11 of the 12 NE balls were under-inflated 2lbs. below NFL specs.

42 posted on 01/21/2015 12:56:38 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Life and death are but temporary states. But Freedom endures forever.)
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To: ez

Maybe we should invite all the teams to the Super Bowl and have one big “you’re all winners” party.


43 posted on 01/21/2015 12:57:03 PM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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To: dmz

Didn’t know that but it seems like a goofy rule to me.


44 posted on 01/21/2015 12:57:28 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The Colts balls were tested when the Pats balls were found to be under. The Colts’ balls were regulation. There was no testing of the balls at the Ravens/Patriots game that I am aware of.


45 posted on 01/21/2015 12:58:38 PM PST by ez (RIP America 1776-2014. Long live the oligarchy.)
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To: Mastador1

No one knows if the Colts’ balls were under-inflated. They seem to have conveniently disappeared. K-balls are rotated by the Officials so they are all used equally. So, the Ravens are blowing smoke.


46 posted on 01/21/2015 12:59:04 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Every team, I repeat every team, looks to take an advantage until they are called out on it. Since the Pats scored most of their points in the second half after the balls were re-inspected and the Dolts scored none I say it is moot.


47 posted on 01/21/2015 12:59:22 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: PapaNew

In just about every organized sport from the pros to tee-ball, balls are supplied by the teams playing. In MLB, the home team supplies the balls. Umps only hold onto them during the game.


48 posted on 01/21/2015 1:00:56 PM PST by nonamer
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To: ez
This story by the Ravens, unfortunately, is fried bologna sandwich, as I used to say.

Remember, footballs used for kicking field goals, punts and kickoffs--the so-called K balls--are not handled by the teams involved in the game; they are kept directly by NFL officials and only brought out and used on field goal tries, punts nad kickoffs. As such, it's just about impossible for the Patriots personnel to "doctor" such footballs in the first place.

49 posted on 01/21/2015 1:01:06 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: PapaNew
It does seem strange.

Possibly started to keep the home team from sabotaging the visitors.

But I see no reason why they should not just have a common ball bag and the ref pulls out a ball at random. Probably a reason though.

Football is not my sport, it interrupts my hockey watching. :)

50 posted on 01/21/2015 1:01:55 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Mastador1

Cosby... out of the news..

Seems reasonable he might be involved then, haha. He’s supposedly “done” just about everything (or every one) he could in Hollywood. Time to move on to the NFL!


51 posted on 01/21/2015 1:02:14 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: PapaNew

No the Colts would not have benefited equally. As the NFL rules stipulates each team is allowed to present their own footballs. Thus the Colts more than likely did not use the same football that was used by the other team. This is for all games. The Colts played lousy and should have lost the game. I am a Colts fan but I personally think the Pats did not need to deflate the balls to win that game.

However, to cheat is to steal, its wrong and therefore the punishment should be extremely harsh at this level if found guilty. I would even say if found guilty the coach should be within an inch of being thrown out of the game for life and if he is found guilty in one more incident of cheating , should be gone entirely to never coach another game of football again and not be allowed into the Football Hall of Fame, except to be distinguished as getting thrown out of football for cheating.


52 posted on 01/21/2015 1:05:10 PM PST by zaxtres
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To: nonamer

Right, but the idea is EVERYONE draws from the same set of balls so no one team can benefit from altering the balls. The NY Yankees don’t keep their own baseballs for use only when it’s their turn to pitch. Seems like that kind of rule begs for stuff like this to happen.


53 posted on 01/21/2015 1:05:37 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

They didn’t use the same balls.


54 posted on 01/21/2015 1:05:38 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Resolute Conservative
Every team, I repeat every team, looks to take an advantage until they are called out on it. Since the Pats scored most of their points in the second half after the balls were re-inspected and the Dolts scored none I say it is moot.

It's not moot. The outcome of the game is besides the point since the balls were obviously deflated before the game. Either there are rules and consequences for breaking those rules or the integrity of the league and game is in question.
55 posted on 01/21/2015 1:06:37 PM PST by nonamer
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To: PapaNew

Papa, I suspect the NFL will be revising their rules due to this incident.


56 posted on 01/21/2015 1:06:43 PM PST by mware
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To: ez

It will be interesting to see if Brady can throw a REAL football in the superbowl. If he has a stinky day it will hint that the patriots have been cheating for years


57 posted on 01/21/2015 1:07:35 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: PapaNew

Sure they can. How do you think the umps get the balls? Someone from the home team has to hand them over. The ump doesn’t select them. They’re all new so it really doesn’t matter as much. Regardless, baseball has a different rules regarding balls, ie. they tend to replace one every time it hits the ground.


58 posted on 01/21/2015 1:10:16 PM PST by nonamer
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To: zaxtres

Agreed


59 posted on 01/21/2015 1:11:08 PM PST by nonamer
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To: mware

I suspect you are right.


60 posted on 01/21/2015 1:14:09 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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