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To: ConservingFreedom
We have in the case of the first 150 or so years of the USA another example of what happens when you *DON'T* make certain substances illegal: not much.

And here you are lying again. Once again you trot out this LIE and try to get by with it again.

This is a total and complete misstatement of the truth and it is part and parcel of the continuous stream of lies which Libertarians always trot out to justify their delusions.

There were no laws against drug use because there was very little and highly isolated usage during this period of history. It's like saying there wasn't any cybercrime back then so we don't need laws against cybercrime now.

It was the Civil war that introduced the US to large quantities of drugs and large quantities of addicts, the consequences of which kept getting worse until they finally had to pass laws against drugs.

172 posted on 01/16/2015 12:03:26 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
We have in the case of the first 150 or so years of the USA another example of what happens when you *DON'T* make certain substances illegal: not much.

And here you are lying again. [...] There were no laws against drug use

So no lie.

It's like saying there wasn't any cybercrime back then so we don't need laws against cybercrime now.

'Medicinal preparations of cannabis became available in American pharmacies in the 1850s following an introduction to its use in Western medicine by William O'Shaughnessy a decade earlier in 1839.[4] [...] As early as 1853, recreational cannabis was listed as a "fashionable narcotic".[9] By the 1880s, oriental-style hashish parlors were flourishing alongside opium dens, to the point that one could be found in every major city on the east coast. It was estimated there were around 500 such establishments in New York City alone.[10] An article in Harper’s Magazine (1883), attributed to Harry Hubbell Kane, describes a hashish-house in New York frequented by a large clientele, including males and females of "the better classes," and further talks about parlors in Boston, Philadelphia and Chicago.[4]' - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States

the consequences of which kept getting worse

The available evidence says the opposite: "In 1880 [...] there were over 400,000 opium addicts in the U.S. [...] By 1900, about one American in 200 was either a cocaine or opium addict." (http://web.archive.org/web/20110529221013/http://www.justice.gov/dea/demand/speakout/06so.htm) 400,000 in a population of 50M is one in 125 - ergo, between 1880 and 1900 addiction declined.

177 posted on 01/16/2015 12:19:39 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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