Posted on 01/16/2015 7:20:24 AM PST by posterchild
SEATTLE (AP) — Washington's legal marijuana market opened last summer to a dearth of weed. Some stores periodically closed because they didn't have pot to sell. Prices were through the roof.
Six months later, the equation has flipped, bringing serious growing pains to the new industry.
A big harvest of sun-grown marijuana from eastern Washington last fall flooded the market. Prices are starting to come down in the state's licensed pot shops, but due to the glut, growers are — surprisingly — struggling to sell their marijuana. Some are already worried about going belly-up, finding it tougher than expected to make a living in legal weed.
"It's an economic nightmare," says Andrew Seitz, general manager at Dutch Brothers Farms in Seattle.
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As usual, the problem with Libertarians is that their "Life experience" consists of just one life. Their own. They have not the slightest clue how their ideas work out in subsequent generations. They are the quintessential spoiled brats who think they know everything but really don't.
What's ingrained in the social fabric doesn't appear to be under government's control: lifetime pot usage continues to grow and now stands at 44%.
Useless statistic. "Lifetime usage" (aka 'ever used') means that an individual has tried marijuana at least once sometime in their life.
The significant percentage is "past 30 days usage".
Why is that the significant measure of being ingrained in the social fabric? Seems to me having used in one's youth and later quit counts toward being ingrained in the social fabric.
As usual, the problem with Libertarians is that their "Life experience" consists of just one life. Their own.
My own life accounts for 44% of Americans?
Marijuana's History: How One Plant Spread Through the World:
From the sites where prehistoric hunters and gatherers lived, to ancient China and Viking ships, cannabis has been used across the world for ages, and a new report presents the drug's colorful history.
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Cannabis plants are believed to have evolved on the steppes of Central Asia, specifically in the regions that are now Mongolia and southern Siberia, according to Warf. The history of cannabis use goes back as far as 12,000 years, which places the plant among humanity's oldest cultivated crops, according to information in the book "Marihuana: The First Twelve Thousand Years" (Springer, 1980).
There is no personal growing allowed in the Washington State recreational marijuana law.
First? First was each state deciding whether or not to legalize alcohol. And the result was a 50-50 split among the states.
Of course that didn't work since the "wet" states smuggled booze to the "dry" states. So, at the request of the states, Congress passed the Webb-Kenyon Act making that smuggling illegal. That didn't work either.
Then came Prohibition. Alcohol use actually increased every year during Prohibition, and there were more speakeasies during Prohibition than there were bars before it. Turns out, the people didn't really want Prohibition and they repealed it at the national level.
Are you saying we should ignore history and have each state decide on the legality of drugs? Do you expect a different outcome? Do you care?
Colorado permits six plants per household.
You, yourself, pointed out that per capita alcohol consumption increased each year of prohibition.
Just making observations.
Regardless, the electricity to grow enough for an individual and his friends doesn't consist of anything great, not enough to be detected. Detection of electricity use is for commercial operations.
As I've pointed out to you, according to President Nixon's National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse, "The lack of federal enforcement rendered the statute [the Webb-Kenyon Act] virtually meaningless."
Big government. That’s the solution. Thanks. Now I know.
Why do you people insist on presenting these false comparisons? We have images graven into stones from Egyptian tombs showing beer making. We have a million pieces of history showing mankind's long experience with the fermenting and brewing of Alcohol. We even have DNA evidence of gene changes allowing us to process the chemical, and you come up with one paltry example of somebody in the Gobi desert getting high 2,700 years ago?
Where are the historical records of this stuff utterly suffusing the culture as is the case with alcohol? Where is the long written history of massive cultural usage?
What you are doing is right on the edge of LYING. The comparison is so absurd that only a delusional or intellectually dishonest person would make it.
About half the people in the U.S. have tried marijuana at some point or another. The overwhelming majority have done so with zero negative effects.
Half the people currently in the US? I thought you were trying to prove some sort of cultural acceptance? To put it into context, you need to demonstrate that a large quantity of people have been using it since at least 1776, and if you look at those percentages, i'm pretty sure you'll discover the current crop of pot-heads represent a very small and insignificant portion of the total.
Again, Libertarians can't seem to get over the fact that the world is bigger than just their lifetime.
How about this? -- we let adults decide what to put into their bodies instead of crying for Big Government to protect us from the demon weed? (I do realize such a concept is alien to those who do not favor small government).
And here we have the bad logic mixed with the ad hominem argument. Let me educate you.
There is a parasite that infects ants and makes them climb to the top of grass stalks and remain there until eaten by a herbivore. Now people like you will argue that the Ant has a right to climb that stalk and get eaten because that's his decision.
Rational people will note that the ant is not in it's right mind because it has been influenced by the infection of a mind altering substance.
They rightly note that when you alter the brain chemisty, you no longer have the ability to exercise free will, and so your argument to "let adults decide what to put into their bodies..." just falls apart.
They can't. It is impossible for most people under the influence of a narcotic to make such decisions. When they have become infected, it is the drug doing the talking at that point.
And many wish to legalize only marijuana -- which would be like legalizing only wine during Prohibition.
Yet they claim that legalizing marijuana will solve all the problems associated with the "War on Drugs".
I will believe people under the influence of drugs are acting on their own free will when you demonstrate that people under the influence of Islam are acting on their own free will.
If you believe either of them are, you are a fool.
Anyone believing that prohibition of any substance will solve society's ills is a fool.
I agree -- on two conditions:
a) If the society consisted only of adults and,
b) if the adults took full responsibility for their actions and did not rely on the rest of us to care for them.
Since neither exists and will never exist, my answer is ... no.
To the contrary, they learned a lot from prohibition. The governement got bigger, more powerful and corruption was widespread. That's all the government could want out of any policy.
A glass of wine, or a one-hitter bowl, eradicates free will? Says who?
Who does?
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