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To: Cementjungle

Watch the video carefully. There was a flash bang to start. (thrown when he was complying and picking up a bag) Then they released a dog. The dog on lead lunged at him and the handler moved forward (officer induced jeopardy)he stood defensively against the dog, then the cops shot him with the ARs several times.
He goes down.
As he lays there, shot to pieces, they give commands to drop the knife. (doubtful he could comply as he fell incapacitated with it in his hands still)
Then they beanbagged him several times, and released a dog on him for several bites.

The guy was a flaming A-hole with a violent record in Albuquerque, but the shoot is simply not justified by that.


26 posted on 01/12/2015 1:02:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

If every asshole was killed, all there would be in the United States would be graveyards. They murdered that guy.


32 posted on 01/12/2015 1:15:02 PM PST by sport
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To: DesertRhino

“As he lays there, shot to pieces, they give commands to drop the knife. (doubtful he could comply as he fell incapacitated with it in his hands still)”

It was one body, not pieces.

Commanding to drop the weapon is what you do. You don’t KNOW if he is still a threat or not. . .that is why they followed up with less lethal rounds when situation allowed.

Less lethal rounds can kill you (Brian Terry, RIP).


43 posted on 01/12/2015 1:46:09 PM PST by Hulka
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To: DesertRhino

Watch the video carefully. There was a flash bang to start. (thrown when he was complying and picking up a bag) Then they released a dog. The dog on lead lunged at him and the handler moved forward (officer induced jeopardy)he stood defensively against the dog, then the cops shot him with the ARs several times.
He goes down.
As he lays there, shot to pieces, they give commands to drop the knife. (doubtful he could comply as he fell incapacitated with it in his hands still)
Then they beanbagged him several times, and released a dog on him for several bites.

The guy was a flaming A-hole with a violent record in Albuquerque, but the shoot is simply not justified by that.


I agree with you on all points.

One of the officers involved has a pretty bad history with LE. This history has been published in several articles, but I found it quickest in the HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/24/james-boyd-killed-by-cops_n_5021117.html

From the article: “Officer Sandy, who was involved in the shooting, was fired from the New Mexico State Police in 2007 over accusations of fraud. He was allegedly making money doing private security work while also on the force, KRQE reported.

When Sandy joined the APD, the department said he would be a civilian employee and wouldn’t have a gun or badge. Sandy continued rising through the ranks, eventually joining the Repeat Offender Project Team.”


64 posted on 01/12/2015 3:57:52 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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