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Charles-Philippe d'Orleans, "No, I'm not Charlie"
Nobility and Royalty ^ | Sunday, January 11 | Prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans, Duc d'Anjou

Posted on 01/11/2015 4:36:11 PM PST by annalex

Charles-Philippe d'Orleans, "No, I'm not Charlie"

On his personal Facebook page, the Prince Charles-Philippe d'Orléans, Duc d'Anjou explained himself following the attacks in Paris. No, the prince is not a part of this vast movement "I'm Charlie" although obviously he condemns these acts that have so shaken France and worldwide.

Here is his statement:

"I will go against the tide of emotional propriety by separating me from the movement "I'm Charlie." No, I'm not Charlie because I never liked that Manichean newspaper.

Charlie Hebdo is a vulgar paper, despising all opinions except its own, which, under the guise of freedom of expression, will allow provocative behavior to all. Charlie Hebdo is an aggressive newspaper that produces hatred of religions through its, supposedly, humor. Charlie Hebdo is the very image of the European atheist society which creates enmity and distress instead of respect and brotherhood among peoples and men, regardless of their differences, race, color, religion.

So I refuse to take part in a "republican sacred covenant" to defend Charlie because, simply, I do not understand what I have to defend.

I am neither disrespectful nor indecent and do not want to offend the memory of the killed cartoonists. Words fail to tell the horror of the attack that hit the newspaper. I condemn this barbaric act and present to families and relatives of the deceased my deepest condolences.

I denounce justly this sterile attempt to bring about national unity and I denounce the hypocrisy of the citizens who have never read this humor publication and who have always criticized the weekly. To honor the victims, yes. Honour Charlie Hebdo, no."



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charliehebdo; deathtoislam; france; paris; prince
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To: DesertRhino

The consequences of fixing the “royal problem” in France nearly annihilated European civilization over the following two hundred years.

In fact — it may have succeeded.


21 posted on 01/11/2015 5:41:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: DesertRhino
The French who "fixed" the "royal problem" were the forefathers of present day Marxists, and they method they used was murdering every royal, plus thousands and thousands of non-royals, in cold blood through political show trials that Stalin later admired and copied.

He is a prince because his father was a prince. He has not rejected his family or his family tradition.

As a practical matter, he supports republican government and ran for office as a conservative pro-family candidate.

22 posted on 01/11/2015 5:41:33 PM PST by wideawake
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To: annalex

He might be right.


23 posted on 01/11/2015 5:43:12 PM PST by Savage Beast (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: buwaya

“There are excellent historical reasons for monarchy.”

Thomas Paine, “Common Sense” destroyed them one by one.


24 posted on 01/11/2015 5:43:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: annalex

LOL

He may not be a magazine, but he is an uptight dick!


25 posted on 01/11/2015 5:44:00 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: DesertRhino

God didnt choose these kings, and “divine right” is not a justification for ruling that has been generally accepted. It is purely a philosophical argument from the 16th century. No medieval king would have asserted his right in this manner, it would have been blasphemy. The king was king because there always had been kings, his legitimacy came from pre-Christian customary law, and the acquiesence of the people.
Paine, unfortunately, assumed that people would or could order their opinions through reason (”common sense”). Maybe some can, but certainly not everyone, not all the time, and some societies, arguably never.


26 posted on 01/11/2015 5:45:15 PM PST by buwaya
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To: DesertRhino
Protestants believe in the divine right of kings - Luther, Calvin, Knox, etc. all vigorously defended this principle against Catholics like Aquinas, Bellarmine, Cajetan etc. who maintained the principle of subsidiarity - that political power derives from the consent of the governed.

You are demonstrating a gap in your education on this thread, a gap that explains but does not excuse the weakness of your analysis.

27 posted on 01/11/2015 5:48:00 PM PST by wideawake
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To: BenLurkin

“The consequences of fixing the “royal problem” in France nearly annihilated European civilization over the following two hundred years.”

Its quite the opposite. The wars after were mostly monarchs. Crimea, the German attacks. Or maybe you mean like WWI? When the Royals of Austria and Germany, fought with their cousins in Russia and England, and the British Royals changed their family name to sound less German?

And again, please tell me about this “peaceful” Europe that the Monarchs created prior to the French Revolution. lol


28 posted on 01/11/2015 5:49:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
A prince? Who cares what ANY member of ANY monarchy has to say? What’s he supposed to be prince of anyway? It can’t be France, they fixed that “royal” problem back in the day.

Holly says, his royal pompous ass still speaks of his royal self in the third person doesn't his royal self?

29 posted on 01/11/2015 5:50:29 PM PST by Holly_P (Holly has two days off and consecutive days at that. - WHOOPEE!)
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To: DesertRhino

I didn’t say it was peaceful


30 posted on 01/11/2015 5:52:11 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: wideawake

“Protestants believe in the divine right of kings - Luther, Calvin, Knox,”

Im a protestant. And I think Calvin was a murderous tyrant. Luther was a wise man on the internals of the Roman church, etc etc. I do not look to them for opinions on civil government.

But none of that star chambers opinions on government stack up against Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, et al.


31 posted on 01/11/2015 5:53:58 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Booga indeed. As Napoleon said (regarding medals, but the concept is the same) - “ by these baubles are men led”.
Or Macaulay’s “ashes of their fathers and the temples of their gods”.
As for rights and powers, there is no need to compromise. We do have functioning constitutional monarchies all over. The real threat to liberty in our world is the unelected “ permanent government”, the choking bureaucracies and their corporatist collaborators, who spit on individual rights and democracy alike. The tyrants of Europe today are more tyrranical than any absolute monarch ever dared be.


32 posted on 01/11/2015 5:54:04 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Holly_P
Holly, use your minimal reading skills.

Go back to the original story at the top of the thread and see for yourself that he refers to himself as "I" - that is called "the first person singular."

33 posted on 01/11/2015 5:55:21 PM PST by wideawake
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To: BenLurkin

But you did imply directly that it became worse after the monarchs were deposed.
Europe was a nightmare before that. The individual amounted to almost nothing.


34 posted on 01/11/2015 5:55:47 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: buwaya

“The real threat to liberty in our world is the unelected “ permanent government”, the choking bureaucracies and their corporatist collaborators, who spit on individual rights and democracy alike. The tyrants of Europe today are more tyrranical than any absolute monarch ever dared be.”

100% agree. But this does not make monarchy a better idea. A free constitutional republic like the original America is the only moral way. Not a lesser despot. What happens when someone disagrees with a monarch? Must they submit? Nobody should ever need to submit to a person who cannot face election. Period.


35 posted on 01/11/2015 5:59:35 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: wideawake

His statement is also translated from French, so its not necessarily the case that stylistic items like this came across in a valid manner. You would need the original French text and long experience in French public speaking to be in a position to criticize on style.


36 posted on 01/11/2015 6:00:05 PM PST by buwaya
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To: DesertRhino

There’s nothing wrong with a constitutional monarchy. Especially an absentee one.

Seems to work fine for Canada and Australia.


37 posted on 01/11/2015 6:00:50 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: wideawake

Take a long walk off a short pier, I’ve heard Charles-Philippe d’Orleans speak, in person. Was it absolutely necessary to insult me?

Oh yes, I forgot, some people live for those moments. It must really suck to go through life, searching for those “high points’ of said sad life.


38 posted on 01/11/2015 6:02:06 PM PST by Holly_P (Holly has two days off and consecutive days at that. - WHOOPEE!)
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To: annalex

Good public statement. He makes sense.


39 posted on 01/11/2015 6:02:41 PM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: DesertRhino
Keep it up DR, and you'll talk yourself right out of any chance for a future noble title, or even a knighthood.

Sincerely,
Leaning Right
Duke of Earl and Count of Chocula

40 posted on 01/11/2015 6:07:02 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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